View Full Version : "Lost" city of Atlantis?
Quitii
10-13-2005, 01:57 AM
ok well i was thinking about it today and noticed no threads on atlantis... so what yall think? is it real? does it still exist? what happened to all the people and technology? you have 30 seconds... GO!:gun:
A team of experts believes it could be close to unravelling the millennia-old myth of the Lost City of Atlantis and is launching an expedition to the seas west of Gibraltar to test its theory.
The team is led by eminent pre-historian Professor Jacques Collina-Girard, aided by the two men who led the expeditions to the Titanic.
They believe that using a combination of literary pointers and geological evidence they have pinned the lost city's location to just west of the Straits of Gibraltar, on a submerged mud shoal now known as Spartel Island.
The story of Atlantis, a fabled utopia destroyed in ancient times, has captured the imagination of scholars ever since it was first described by the philosopher Plato more than 2,000 years ago.
His depiction of a land of fabulous wealth, advanced civilisation and natural beauty has spurred many adventurers to seek out its location.
Debate rages over where it may lie, with it being placed variously near Cuba, off the coast of Devon, near The Azores or slap bang in the middle of the Atlantic.
"The area looks just like Plato described it - sitting right outside the Pillars of Hercules. As soon as I saw it I thought 'Oh my God this is it!' In fact I couldn't believe no-one had drawn this conclusion before," team member Paul-Henri Nargeolet told BBC News Online.
Plato made the first written references to Atlantis in 360BC:
"There was an island situated in front of the Pillars of Hercules; the island was larger than Libya and Asia put together," he said in his Timaeus dialogue.
He explained that the island "was the way to other islands, and from these you might pass to the whole of the opposite continent".
Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3227295.stm)
BklynCannonball
10-13-2005, 09:04 AM
Oh to be on that ship!
latinmaxima
10-13-2005, 09:30 AM
i wonder who bought camera rights on the voyage surely discovery channel will try to get on board to document. or even national geographic
RedOctober
10-13-2005, 02:04 PM
There is loads of shit told about Atlantis, you can place it anywhere..
Every guy who wants to earn a few bucks easily writes a book about it and sells. A sort of Dan Brown succes.
I can easily make you believe that Atlantis was in the North Sea.
The early Dutch even copied their ideas to build dikes, levees and canals to keep the water under control.. ;)
Great Brittain was connected to the European mainland, and the river Thames once did stream across the plains of Atlantis.. ;)
Wuhaha..
BTW
The newest book is about that Atlantis was in Indonesia.. Pathetic!!
Quitii
10-13-2005, 02:49 PM
kinda lame... i got a news article from one and a comment saying how much of bullshit the news aritcle could be... come on im looking for your PERSONAL thoughts on atlantis
BklynCannonball
10-13-2005, 02:51 PM
You first, what are yours?
You can't just come in here and ask us and not share.
I am not your show pony!
Quitii
10-13-2005, 03:01 PM
I am not your show pony!
yes you are... and i think its quite possible that it exists still. kinda like when your lookin all over for your keys and they're in your hand/pocket the whole time... maybe people are actually living in atlantis now, and dont even know it.
One story i read said that the first person ever with red hair was some royalty from atlantis... so possibly ireland? stereotypical irish person has red hair so why not? just an idea, thought, possibility, w/e. even though it wouldnt follow plato's description, what says its not a possibility?
yes you are... and i think its quite possible that it exists still. kinda like when your lookin all over for your keys and they're in your hand/pocket the whole time... maybe people are actually living in atlantis now, and dont even know it.
One story i read said that the first person ever with red hair was some royalty from atlantis... so possibly ireland? stereotypical irish person has red hair so why not? just an idea, thought, possibility, w/e. even though it wouldnt follow plato's description, what says its not a possibility?
i dont know what is more full of shit, the news article or you. i suppose ireland could fit in with it, they say atlantis was full of treasure and ireland has lepricons :lol: "wheres me pot 'er gold?"
Quitii
10-13-2005, 03:52 PM
i dont know what is more full of shit, the news article or you.
I don't appreciate that, especially when i said it was an IDEA, SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT
BklynCannonball
10-13-2005, 04:20 PM
One story I read said that redheads were actually aliens.
But that's an interesting concept, that people are living in Atlantis as we speak. It wouldn't explain that it sank though.
I'm sorry I have nothing to add to the theory, I know there are others on WTF that are knowledgeable on the subject.
Tostig
10-13-2005, 06:08 PM
I find it insteresting that most cultures have an "atlantis" type myth. Even in the legends of King Arthur and such, the Isle d'Lyoness was said to rise from the sea every 10 years (or something like that) then sink beneath the water again. The people of ancient south america even had a myth of an island that was washed over by the angered gods.
But I think it was actually a colony of ancient irish who were at the pinnacle of evolution and technology until they invented beer. (saw a story about that, made sense to me, cant' remember where though)
But I think it was actually a colony of ancient irish who were at the pinnacle of evolution and technology until they invented beer. (saw a story about that, made sense to me, cant' remember where though)
It was whiskey. Family Guy (http://www.lesscrappy.com/tvpage.asp?ID=166).
junglizm
10-13-2005, 06:16 PM
what happened to all the people and technology? you have 30 seconds... GO!:gun:
They (the ancients) unfortunately had to sink the city near the end of the Wraith war, after their super weapon backfired on them. The city has since risen, is safe and well, and we are learning about their technology... somewhat. Those goddamn Wraith keep fucking things up though. :mad:
i've often thought it was simply map making errors.. that in early times the cartographers mapped out, say tanzania, then sailed back to find it and accidently/mistakenly went to the atlantic instead.. then found it wasn't there, decried the loss of the land, that story evolves over time to the point where somehow we lost a great civilization..
Quitii
10-13-2005, 06:28 PM
...cartographers mapped out, say tanzania, then sailed back to find it and accidently/mistakenly went to the atlantic instead...
interesting idea i like that one
RedOctober
10-17-2005, 11:22 AM
Well..
First of all, it was a story told by a Greek, from heresay that...
There was a great civilization once, where the Greeks were a buch of lazy goatfuckers.. Of course that's the story to tell the Greeks that they should be strong, work hard, and fight like devils, and not spend their time boozing wine and penetrating their friends' ass. (Greek love)
Later on, a sarcastic story was heard by a bunch of morons, who believed it to be true, like all other fairy tales, including stories like about giants in the bible.
If there are some traces of Atlantis, why not in Europe itself?
Why the fuck aren't there pyramids in Europe?
It the Atlantians would have been that smart, they'd have superior skills like making weapons, building ships, but why build a Pyramid?
It doesn't make sense at all!
And even the secret room beneath the Sfynx is utter crap.
There may be a room, but why so much fuzz about it?
What's in there? A secret war control centre of the ice age?
Come on!
In Egypt there was nowhere any sign of Atlantis. If it were such a big thing, there should have been even grafitty on the walls about it!
Something like "Fuck Atlantis" or something.
The same thing as "Yankees go home" or "ROMANI ITE DOMVM"
BklynCannonball
10-17-2005, 11:35 AM
For someone who claims to read a lot, your spelling and grammar sucks.
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/Mousepad65-nazi.JPG
Jessica43999
10-17-2005, 09:05 PM
I really dont believe in Atlantis. I don't have any real proof to believe in it. Like, I want some thing real I dont want "maybe's or could-be's". Beleiving in Atlantis is like believeing in the Toothfairy, or Santa, or the Easter Bunny.
junglizm
10-17-2005, 10:30 PM
Beleiving in Atlantis is like believeing in the Toothfairy, or Santa, or the Easter Bunny.
Or god...
Quitii
10-18-2005, 02:21 AM
Or god...
i like that analogy... but thats the difference in knowing and believing.. you have no proof of your beliefs, its just what you believe is real or could be real, whichever way
dirtlover
10-18-2005, 06:21 AM
Beleiving in Atlantis is like believeing in the Toothfairy, or Santa, or the Easter Bunny.
Or god...
.. or the city of Troy (people who know something about history can recognize my sarcasm already here). they never believed it to be true until they found it.
I mean, Troy could've been a legend just as well. you'll never know for sure, all i'm sayin is that it's 50-50, either they find it one day or then it will be a legend forever.
RedOctober
10-18-2005, 06:31 AM
For someone who claims to read a lot, your spelling and grammar sucks.
I'm Dutch, you jackass!
See the RED WHITE AND BLUE FLAG!
Try to write Dutch, you won't get far!
It's even very clumsy to critize spelling on a forum, especially if it's a foreigner that writes better English than a lot of American nitwits! :tongue:
RedOctober
10-18-2005, 06:39 AM
.. or the city of Troy (people who know something about history can recognize my sarcasm already here). they never believed it to be true until they found it.
I mean, Troy could've been a legend just as well. you'll never know for sure, all i'm sayin is that it's 50-50, either they find it one day or then it will be a legend forever.
If they fight for 10 years, destroy a city and give a detailed description about it, it was very likely they find it. It only took so long because the Turks weren't very cooperative. And why should they be?
Atlantis, my friend, was sunk into the depth of the sea.
Try to find that!
There is a probability of an under sea level caldera, that is filled with sediment. (Caldera is the top-hole in a volcano)
Another serious location could have been in the North Sea.
Yes.. The sea between Great Brittain and Norway.
That's in Europe... :tongue:
RTFT!
lady victoria
10-18-2005, 06:54 AM
I'm Dutch, you jackass!
See the RED WHITE AND BLUE FLAG!
Try to write Dutch, you won't get far!
It's even very clumsy to critize spelling on a forum, especially if it's a foreigner that writes better English than a lot of American nitwits! :tongue:
Flikker op! (did you understand that?????????):tongue:
RedOctober
10-18-2005, 12:39 PM
Flikker op! (did you understand that?????????):tongue:
Yes... Very potent magic words.. If you shout it loud enough, and look mad it makes Dutch men get a tiny dicky. :D
Woodreaux
10-21-2005, 12:43 AM
I think whatever happened to Atlantis has something to do with whatever happened to the Dragons. Every ancient civilization has some kind of Atlantis story, but they also tales of Dragons. My guess is Dragons like hanging out in Atlantis.
They call it the lost city, not the destroyed city. So it may still be around. The Atlantians probably got disgusted with the rest of the world due to the rise of organized religion and have used their technology to keep the city's existance secret until the world becomes cool again.
RedOctober
10-21-2005, 06:06 AM
I think whatever happened to Atlantis has something to do with whatever happened to the Dragons. Every ancient civilization has some kind of Atlantis story, but they also tales of Dragons. My guess is Dragons like hanging out in Atlantis.
They call it the lost city, not the destroyed city. So it may still be around. The Atlantians probably got disgusted with the rest of the world due to the rise of organized religion and have used their technology to keep the city's existance secret until the world becomes cool again.
I agree...
The dragons also are responsible for the many hurricanes in your region.
The Atlantians send them to kick the ass of Bush! :cool:
afiq980
10-23-2005, 09:03 AM
atlantis is juzz a myth......
I think Atlantis may have been real. They may have even been on the path to technology, but the backwards people of the time decided to blow it up to mythical status. It's possible some volcano or something sunk a whole island. I've seen lots of stuff on it, but I'm still keeping my skeptical hat on.
Shaman Yoh
11-30-2005, 09:57 PM
Hmmmm. Just think. If we didn't piss away so much money finding out about the PAST, we could focus on solving the events of the present and making a better future. Here's a novel concept: Take away the funding money and use it to help find a cure for cancer. Or a better alternative to oil. Or inventing an orange-flavored Jolly Rancher. The possibilities are endless!:cool:
drnknbndr
01-13-2006, 03:11 AM
Who cares?
Are we going to 'resurface' Atlantis?
FUCK NO!
Who knows what kind of deep sea creatures await the unfortunate souls
who venture down there, not knowing that his gas stove wasn't turned off.
Atlantis is bullshit, ever read of something called The Bible people?
Sure it was written >2,000 years ago, but it's the truth.
Well, if ur Christian or whatnot, it is.
Jugular
01-16-2006, 11:46 PM
Who cares?
Are we going to 'resurface' Atlantis?
FUCK NO!
Who knows what kind of deep sea creatures await the unfortunate souls
who venture down there, not knowing that his gas stove wasn't turned off.
Atlantis is bullshit, ever read of something called The Bible people?
Sure it was written >2,000 years ago, but it's the truth.
Well, if ur Christian or whatnot, it is.
:eek: .
Lonely_Person
02-17-2006, 05:46 PM
that would be cool to find the lost city of atlantis but who knows what's on it...if they are underwater did they create amazing technology to survive in water? or are they part dolphin?
King Goldfish
02-18-2006, 07:09 PM
what exactly kind of technology did Atlantans supposibly have? I know that Myans had some kind of batteries. Maybe the Myans were atlantans? They brought egyption technology to North and Central America?
Did the Atlantans have flashlights, Did they have fossil burning fuels? did they have solar power technology. maybe even other electronics? Perhaps airplanes? And they didnt share it with the rest of the world. Made laws not to share their technology to stay in power. then all of a sudden the nation exploded and sank from vulcanic eruptions or a massive quake?
Lonely_Person
02-18-2006, 08:47 PM
they would be called Atlantans? I always wondered if they'd be called that or like Atlantians or Atlants or Atlantites or something...thanks for clearing that up :)
Quitii
02-19-2006, 04:33 AM
try lantians. taken from Stargate: Atlantis
Lonely_Person
02-19-2006, 10:19 AM
Alright, so what type of technology would the Lantians have to be able to live underwater?
I have a book that describes a race of people who live on and under an ocean and what they use to survive. They had amazing technology, like globes that form fitted your head and didn't need an air tank, and other things.
I guess living underwater would face you with many difficulties requiring special technology. Of course, that would mean land objects would seem like magic.
Then again, it was a fiction book. :redface: :rolleyes:
King Goldfish
02-19-2006, 02:06 PM
:D they would be called Atlantans? I always wondered if they'd be called that or like Atlantians or Atlants or Atlantites or something...thanks for clearing that up :)
Sorry, I dont know the exact name of thier nationality. I was just trying to get my point across. That they could have had such technologies but didnt share them with the rest of the world. And thats why when they sunk, the rest of the world stayed primative until the late 19th century.
Lonely_Person
02-19-2006, 07:05 PM
I understand. But imagine Atlantis resurfacing. That would be like seeing Cinderella shopping at Wal-Mart or something. If they did have amazing technology, it could revolutionize the way we live!
Repth
02-19-2006, 08:47 PM
im much to lazy to read the other posts. but hate to drag religion into this..
what about when god flodded the earth? maybe atlantins was lost then? and please dont start a religion war.. its just my theory
what about when god flodded the earth? maybe atlantins was lost then? and please dont start a religion war.. its just my theory
*anti-religion response*
ill say anything is possible when it comes to atlantis
King Goldfish
02-19-2006, 09:48 PM
im much to lazy to read the other posts. but hate to drag religion into this..
what about when god flodded the earth? maybe atlantins was lost then? and please dont start a religion war.. its just my theory
My beliefs are christian based. But the story says that atlantas was struck by a large and massive quake.
But I agree with you. Its why there are bolders standing straight up in the desert and defying gravity. Its not rock that was weathered down over centuries that created these monuments. There clearly is evidence of a massive flood of water that ran over a thousand miles inland into the southwestern states.
Its also why some of the highest mountains on earth can be found to have ancient clam shells and other sea fossils. Yes, the mountains rose but it didnt take millions of years.
Its also why some of the highest mountains on earth can be found to have ancient clam shells and other sea fossils. Yes, the mountains rose but it didnt take millions of years.
Right. It took tens of millions of years.
King Goldfish
02-20-2006, 05:18 PM
Right. It took tens of millions of years.
Oh, so you're suggesting that all of the landmass was once under an entire planet of ocean water?
Well, thinking with that same state of mind, one could just say there was a great flood. There is evidence of a great flood in the desert regions of the America Southwest.
From what I've learned. Most mountain ranges are either created by volcanic flows or thrust faultlines. There are no great thrust faultlines in the Rocky Mountain regions. The closest faultline to create that big of a quake is the New madrid fault which I believe is down in louisiana. And thats one of the flatest regions in the US.
Quitii
02-21-2006, 01:27 AM
according to Stargate: Atlantis (yes i know it's only a TV show, but it still serves as another idea/possibility concerning the existance/technology of atlantis) the city was entirely enclosed. basically one huge building. in the show, the Lantians were able to travel through space and such, including the city. that would explain how it disappeared. they traveled out too far, ran out of power/fuel, and couldnt come back.
Oh, so you're suggesting that all of the landmass was once under an entire planet of ocean water?
Well, thinking with that same state of mind, one could just say there was a great flood. There is evidence of a great flood in the desert regions of the America Southwest.
From what I've learned. Most mountain ranges are either created by volcanic flows or thrust faultlines. There are no great thrust faultlines in the Rocky Mountain regions. The closest faultline to create that big of a quake is the New madrid fault which I believe is down in louisiana. And thats one of the flatest regions in the US.
How did you get all that from eight words?
Sure, at some point during the four and a half billion years of Earth's history, a huge flood occured. Proves nothing.
Most mountain ranges are either fault block, or folded, like many ranges in the Rockies. At one time, the sediment that comprises these mountains was probably under water, hence the fossils.
It took millions and millions of years for the Alps, Rockies, Andes, etc...to rise.
This is a FACT. Christian based beliefs do not mingle well with FACTS.
Isn't this an Atlantis thread? Pffft.
Quitii
02-21-2006, 05:24 AM
get over it jack.. we've thread-jacked someone elses before, talking about logic and god and such (nessie)
Sorry, but I had to respond.
*Atlantis related post*
Húanzlat
02-21-2006, 05:41 AM
I think that Atlantis could have existed, but that all the stories about it are way over-done, so that it turns into more of a fairy tale. However, there probably could have been a country where the population lived on a swampy, geothermically unstable landmass, which sank after an earthquake or vulcanic erruption. and then they either drowned or went by boats to mainland iberia or whatever, and integrated....
However, i don't really know anything about atlantis; haven't read all the stories.;)
FuckedOver
02-21-2006, 05:45 AM
Atlantis real or not? If u follow stargate at all it is quite possible that a race of technologically superior people inhabited a flying city and it sunk to the bottom of the ocean.
Any hardcore historians will know that many ancient cities have been lost to the sea. It could be possible that Atlantis was a fellow victim of the rising sea level.
Or the water could actually be soil, meaning that what is now believed to be the ancient city of troy could actually be what sparked the story of Atlantis - A massive city spanning miles in all directions burried under thousands of years of dirt - what is visible above ground is only the tip of the ice berg.
There is a cave that was discovered in the UK years ago which is believed to be the cave of Merlin.
The fact is Atlantis may exist, it may have sunk, been burried, flown away, or simply decayed over time. But if it is/was in existance somewhere - it dont make one shread of difference to any of our lives!
So who gives a fuck?!
Quitii
02-21-2006, 05:58 AM
theres an idea. the words for soil and water being mis-translated. so, yeah. atlantis might actually be troy.
Considering how much we understand about Plato's Greek, I find it hard to believe two basic words could be confused with one another.
Quitii
02-21-2006, 06:06 AM
well, i have very little faith in humanity as a whole. i think it's quite possible that someone screwed up.
FuckedOver
02-21-2006, 06:16 AM
Humans screw up all the time, we drove the mammoth to extiction, same with the dodo, we war amoungst our selves, and we created the computer!
No wonder alien races have shown no interest in having anything to do with us!
In short - we are the one thing we despise the most and the more we try to better ourselves the more we detest ourselves
Yes it is highly possible that along the line - someone fucked up!!
This subject has had the attention and focus for hundreds of thousands of people for what, 2500 years? Doubtfull of the "fuck up" going unnoticed.
FuckedOver
02-21-2006, 06:52 AM
Ever heard of a "cover up" ???
King Goldfish
02-21-2006, 12:26 PM
Atlantis real or not? If u follow stargate at all it is quite possible that a race of technologically superior people inhabited a flying city and it sunk to the bottom of the ocean.
Any hardcore historians will know that many ancient cities have been lost to the sea. It could be possible that Atlantis was a fellow victim of the rising sea level.
Or the water could actually be soil, meaning that what is now believed to be the ancient city of troy could actually be what sparked the story of Atlantis - A massive city spanning miles in all directions burried under thousands of years of dirt - what is visible above ground is only the tip of the ice berg.
There is a cave that was discovered in the UK years ago which is believed to be the cave of Merlin.
The fact is Atlantis may exist, it may have sunk, been burried, flown away, or simply decayed over time. But if it is/was in existance somewhere - it dont make one shread of difference to any of our lives!
So who gives a fuck?!
LOL, though the writers of the show might do some research. it's just a show. Im not bible thumping. I wont get into my beliefs which are far from tradional Christianity.
But, Plato didnt exist during this mysterious Atlantas that he spoke about. Yet thousands of years later, this persons story seems to still carry on. So many people are searching for this lost continent.
FuckedOver
02-21-2006, 08:37 PM
When did the legendary/mythalogical lost city become a lost continent????
King Goldfish
02-21-2006, 09:18 PM
When did the legendary/mythalogical lost city become a lost continent????
'It wasnt a city, it was an island that was considered a Continent from what I remember (Like Australia) Perhaps just in the past 30 years the story has changed to just 1 city. Go find me this city and bring forth its riches. I need a new harley!
FuckedOver
02-22-2006, 12:27 AM
If all u want for the lost city/continent is a motor bike then you should be leading this world - Thats is the least greed i have ever witnessed, considering what Atlantis could potentially be