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ron
04-21-2004, 08:01 AM
Well, yet another way to piss me off. You may have noticed that tax season has come and gone. Some people are still scrambling to complete their taxes after filing an extension because they were too stupid or lazy to go through their receipts ahead of time and file the paperwork by 15 April. I hate paying taxes, but I do it as early as I can, usually in the first week of February. I always get money back. Being a homeowner and the father of three helps. But, I digress.

I made the mistake of discussing taxes recently with my sister, a normally very intelligent 19-year-old who will probably graduate college before I. In our conversation, she hit upon the idea that "poor" people should pay no taxes and that "rich" people (our parents, me, anyone who makes a decent living according to the Democrats) should pay more. Further, these taxes should then be divided amongst the poor in Robin Hood fashion to help put everyone on the same terms economically.

Huh? I blinked and tried to imagine where she had gotten these ideas. I told her that I thought she had been listening to too many liberal professors at college. She didn't agree and a verbal brawl ensued.

I tried to explain that those of us who work for a living and pay taxes on our income worked hard for that money in an attempt to provide for the standard of living she and people like her now enjoy. I further explained that obtaining said gainful employment is beyond no one and that our society will never be one where everyone is equal in economic status. Some people have no ambition, some people are lazy, some people love to work, etc. Some people are so stupid that I wonder how they manage to breathe (Maddonx).

She remained unconvinced. She went on and on about how beautiful our world would be if wealth was divided equally; the clouds would part, sun would shine in, angels would sing, and we'd all have a Coke and smile.

Whatever. I don't normally like to hurt her feelings, but I began to think that I had no other choice. I explained that it was called Communism, that it had been tried, and that it had failed in every attempt. Then, an epiphany.

My sister has always, always been a 4.0 student. She was born 30 and just grew bigger. She works hard for her grades and will undoubtedly go far in professional life. I asked about her friend, Katie. Katie has never been the greatest student, but she always passes her classes; she is the stereotypical C student. Katie is no good at math and had real trouble with college algebra, managing to pull out a C. My sister, of course, had made an A.

So, I suggested that she take her A and make it a B, then she could give the extra grade point to Katie, making her C a B. I have always thought that 3.0 is a great GPA. In this scenario, they both win.

My sister flipped. She started yelling defensively about how hard she worked for her grades, telling me about the late nights studying and the missed parties.

"That's just not fair! I worked really hard for those grades and giving up some so that someone else has a better GPA is just wrong!" she cried.

"Kind of like your new tax system," I said. She froze and her mouth dropped open. She didn't say another word. Score.

In retrospect, I put this in the wrong part of the forum. Unless you want to debate it.

otepsoul
04-21-2004, 08:46 AM
shit this too long for me.

ron
04-21-2004, 09:17 AM
shit this too long for me.
You need to invest in an attention span. Pinhead.

otepsoul
04-21-2004, 09:19 AM
yeah but i dont want to.

ron
04-21-2004, 10:02 AM
yeah but i dont want to.
Snappy. Almost as good as, "I know you are but what am I?"

GottaHurt
04-21-2004, 10:29 AM
Good analogy there on explaining Capitalism and how it works.It's what makes our country great.

Overlord
04-24-2004, 06:30 PM
Good analogy there on explaining Capitalism and how it works.It's what makes our country great.

Bullshit. This country is turning fucking socialist on us. These fucking dumbass politicians (and I'm talking about ever damn one of those mother fuckers) are fucking raping this nation raw. I WISH we had capitalism, free markets, open borders, and a lack of social conservatism, but that sure as hell isn't the case. The criminals have taken over Washington DC, and our freedoms are going to fucking hell.

I'm fucking sick of these fucking politicians who regulate my body and my money.

Solanaceae
04-26-2004, 06:27 AM
Hmm, I am just happy I live in Australia... none of your pig headed american opinions... I say "live and let live", which of course is a quote i didn't create... but I believe in it all the same. Can't you people let others have thier own opinions? And if you hadn't noticed but, China, is still a communist country, and seems to be running itself satifactorily. Hey even Iraq was running smotly until you guys stuck your opinion in. How dare you guys get the SAS in all that (special australian services; Aussie commandos). They have saved your ass on more than one occasion *cough* Vietnam*cough*, but i suppose none of you remember that.

Broken
04-26-2004, 07:04 AM
Hmm, I am just happy I live in Australia... none of your pig headed american opinions... I say "live and let live", which of course is a quote i didn't create... but I believe in it all the same. Can't you people let others have thier own opinions? And if you hadn't noticed but, China, is still a communist country, and seems to be running itself satifactorily. Hey even Iraq was running smotly until you guys stuck your opinion in. How dare you guys get the SAS in all that (special australian services; Aussie commandos). They have saved your ass on more than one occasion *cough* Vietnam*cough*, but i suppose none of you remember that.
OK... Lets do it. Australia .Vs the USA.. One on One... ROFL.. *Cough Cough..* That's your drunk AIDS infested countrymen choking on yet another bar bet that can't live up to.

GottaHurt
04-26-2004, 11:53 AM
Hmm, I am just happy I live in Australia... How dare you guys get the SAS in all that (special australian services; Aussie commandos). They have saved your ass on more than one occasion *cough* Vietnam*cough*, but i suppose none of you remember that.

Yea, we're glad you live in Australia too, pussy.

The SAS? Yea, it stands for Send American Soldiers. And it's true you saved our asses, by keeping the latrines clean so the real soldiers wouldn't get staphe infections, you piece of shit.Keep your podunk ass down famunda where it belongs, before we send some more "opinion" your way, bitch.

badassmtbiker
04-26-2004, 12:55 PM
Hmm, I am just happy I live in Australia... none of your pig headed american opinions... I say "live and let live", which of course is a quote i didn't create... but I believe in it all the same. Can't you people let others have thier own opinions? And if you hadn't noticed but, China, is still a communist country, and seems to be running itself satifactorily. Hey even Iraq was running smotly until you guys stuck your opinion in. How dare you guys get the SAS in all that (special australian services; Aussie commandos). They have saved your ass on more than one occasion *cough* Vietnam*cough*, but i suppose none of you remember that.


Let's see here, first we bailed out the French, by sending in wave after wave of us troops - more than 2.59 million people served in Vietnam from 1962 - 1972. Australia contributed about 40,000 people throughout the conflict. Wait, they were probably all badasses, right? Thanks coming to the rescue. Fact is - if Australia were to have a natural disaster, or large terrorist attack, the first country to offer help (and coincidentally, the first place the Aussie gov't would look) would be the US. Case in point - North Korea.

Just be glad that your continent is wasteland. Otherwise New Zealand would have invaded you long ago. Y'all may play some rugby but your army is a farce. I've trained with Aussies, and the best thing I can say is that their uniforms looked clean. These guys made the Canadian Army (read girl scouts) look professional.

fasteddie
04-26-2004, 02:00 PM
Hmm, I am just happy I live in Australia... none of your pig headed american opinions... I say "live and let live", which of course is a quote i didn't create... but I believe in it all the same. Can't you people let others have thier own opinions? And if you hadn't noticed but, China, is still a communist country, and seems to be running itself satifactorily. Hey even Iraq was running smotly until you guys stuck your opinion in. How dare you guys get the SAS in all that (special australian services; Aussie commandos). They have saved your ass on more than one occasion *cough* Vietnam*cough*, but i suppose none of you remember that.

Too bad we didn't get saved from Crocodile Dundee, mate!

Solanaceae
04-27-2004, 06:52 AM
Oh god... Thank you for proving my point, research your shit before you post. And, for your information, New Zealand would be the first to send help if we were invaded, which although highly doubtful (By the way, this is my opinion. Do you think America will be invaded? NO of course not, so let me think my country won't either.) could happen, although of course you wouldn't have bothered to learn about the NZRAF but they are the best thing going for New Zealand since LOTR is over. Oh and great job kepping trhe peace over there in Iraq. NOtice the Aussie casualties compared to yours? The aussies are out there atm defending a cement factory vital to rebuilding Iraq post war. But not a single Aussie has died, however in the last week, i am not sure about the final figure but i know it is more than 10 US marines got killed. So suck on that man, your soldiers suck, you win by sheer force of numbers, and buying technology from Japan. And have you noticed how pissed off the UN is that no WMDs were found? Now that just makes it obvious you were in it for the oil doesn't it? Man i would love to join the UN led coalition and fuck up you arrogant sons of bitches. :mfinger: :mfinger: :mfinger: Edited by me:spelling:

Solanaceae
04-27-2004, 06:55 AM
: :mfinger: :mfinger: :mfinger: :mfinger: And yes, i thought i would copy your example "fasteddie" and post a pointless post.

GottaHurt
04-27-2004, 08:52 AM
Oh god... Thank you for proving my point, research your shit before you post. And, for your information, New Zealand would be the first to send help if we were invaded, which although highly doubtful (By the way, this is my opinion. Do you think America will be invaded? NO of course not, so let me think my country won't either.) could happen, although of course you wouldn't have bothered to learn about the NZRAF but they are the best thing going for New Zealand since LOTR is over. Oh and great job kepping trhe peace over there in Iraq. NOtice the Aussie casualties compared to yours? The aussies are out there atm defending a cement factory vital to rebuilding Iraq post war. But not a single Aussie has died, however in the last week, i am not sure about the final figure but i know it is more than 10 US marines got killed. So suck on that man, your soldiers suck, you win by sheer force of numbers, and buying technology from Japan. And have you noticed how pissed off the UN is that no WMDs were found? Now that just makes it obvious you were in it for the oil doesn't it? Man i would love to join the UN led coalition and fuck up you arrogant sons of bitches. :mfinger: :mfinger: :mfinger: Edited by me:spelling:

Are you still spewing forth nonsense, pussy? Yea, you're guarding that oh so important cement factory, yea, there's a critical military objective for the enemy.You keep those guards posted 'round the clock.Hate to have the terrorist steal a couple tons of cement. Hell, they might just make a suicide sidewalk or something.Now, run along, have a kangaroo sandwich and STFU.

ron
04-27-2004, 09:23 AM
Oh and great job kepping trhe peace over there in Iraq. NOtice the Aussie casualties compared to yours? The aussies are out there atm defending a cement factory vital to rebuilding Iraq post war. But not a single Aussie has died, however in the last week, i am not sure about the final figure but i know it is more than 10 US marines got killed. So suck on that man, your soldiers suck, you win by sheer force of numbers, and buying technology from Japan. And have you noticed how pissed off the UN is that no WMDs were found? Now that just makes it obvious you were in it for the oil doesn't it? Man i would love to join the UN led coalition and fuck up you arrogant sons of bitches. :mfinger: :mfinger: :mfinger: Edited by me:spelling:

Those numbers would undoubtedly increase if someone were actually shooting at the Australian soldiers guarding that oh-so-important cement plant. Of all the things you could have cited as examples of military superiority, you chose to cite casualty numbers for troops guarding a cement plant. That was just bonzer, mate. Only a superior fighting force would be assigned to guard that cement plant.

Let's put it in context: the US Marines are conducting operations in hot zones, where there is real combat going on. People are actually trying to kill American soldiers. There are bound to be casualties. Dumbass.

As to oil, you're welcome, since your country's oil supply appears to be dwindling and it looks like you'll be importing more, (http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/stories/s1077078.htm).

Oh, and fuck the UN. That's a worthless body of imbeciles whose power extends only to the sidewalk in front of the UN building. Why doesn't the UN do something besides debate? Why not form a coalition to root out terrorists? They don't appear to be concerned about that, do they?

GottaHurt
04-27-2004, 10:36 AM
U.N. = Usually Nothing, as in what they accomplish.What really pisses me off is we pay 1/3 of the operating/maintenance cost of that piece of shit org. and there's a 178 nations that belong to the UN. I just watched a special on the Food for Oil program sponsered by the UN with Saddam Hussein, and the UN gleaned 2 billion dollars from the deal. WTF? And we pay fees? And where exactly is that money going? And what for? Time for the American people to stand up and kick it out, let France host the bastards.

Solanaceae
04-28-2004, 03:37 AM
U.N. = Usually Nothing, as in what they accomplish.What really pisses me off is we pay 1/3 of the operating/maintenance cost of that piece of shit org. and there's a 178 nations that belong to the UN. I just watched a special on the Food for Oil program sponsered by the UN with Saddam Hussein, and the UN gleaned 2 billion dollars from the deal. WTF? And we pay fees? And where exactly is that money going? And what for? Time for the American people to stand up and kick it out, let France host the bastards.
Obviously you don't see the need for other countries to have a say in the world, US makes the rules now eh? Man that's so arrogant.
And hey, asshole, about that cement factory, it was being guarded by a whole cell. So don't tell me about hot zones, they used a sonic boom to scare the terrorists out. Thus no casualties, they fought smart, not your stupid; lets just bomb it and hope they blame the terrorists.
The US is supposed to have a signiture shock and awe campaign style, where did that go? You can't fight a guerilla war, not in a country that isn't your own, the cells have too much support from the civilians.
And, the Un doesn't seem concerned about terrorists because it is in America, an impregnable fortress *cough* 9/11 *cough*. Maybe the UN cares more about saving the starving people in Tanzania and other small countries? Damn, I wish China was a bit more proactive... where would you be then? The only thing that has kept your country alive is nuclear missiles, and can you imagine the international opinion drop? Oh but of course other opinions don't matter to America; Land of the free.

ron
04-28-2004, 07:58 AM
OK, let's see.

Obviously you don't see the need for other countries to have a say in the world, US makes the rules now eh? Man that's so arrogant.
When we give the UN its meeting place, we pay most of the operating costs, and we reap almost none of the benefits of membership, yes, we get to make some of the rules. Australia and Finland can begin making the rules when they shoulder the burden. I think it is equally arrogant for the misguided and uninformed citizenry of other nations to criticize the United States of America simply because we are the USA. I also think it is arrogant that other nations criticize us out of one side of their mouths and then demand aid from us out of the other side of their mouths.
And hey, asshole, about that cement factory, it was being guarded by a whole cell. So don't tell me about hot zones, they used a sonic boom to scare the terrorists out. Thus no casualties, they fought smart, not your stupid; lets just bomb it and hope they blame the terrorists.
Hey asshole. A whole cell of terrorists scared out by a sonic boom when they are not afraid to board an airplace and crash it into large buildings? I doubt it. If the bombs and guns don't scare them, I doubt that a loud noise will do so.
The US is supposed to have a signiture shock and awe campaign style, where did that go? You can't fight a guerilla war, not in a country that isn't your own, the cells have too much support from the civilians.
Is that so? I was never briefed on this when I was in the Army. You have hit a good point here: our opponents have support from civilians. Thus our continued campaign to identify and remove these civilians. If civilians get in the way, if civilians are going to support our enemies, then said civilians may wind up casualties. That's called war, dipshit. You might know more about it if you had ever been there.
And, the Un doesn't seem concerned about terrorists because it is in America, an impregnable fortress *cough* 9/11 *cough*.
Impregnable fortress? Hardly. Our borders are open to any piece of shit from another country who can manage to find passage here. We have illegal aliens in this country drawing on our social welfare system, money which, more often than not, finds its way back to their family in the motherland.

As to the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center having occured on September 11, 2001, it was a terrorist attack. It happens all over the world every day. The scope of the attack and the number of civilian deaths involved, however, were far higher than most other terrorist events.
Maybe the UN cares more about saving the starving people in Tanzania and other small countries?
You think so? Then why have they not raised the standard of living in any of these poor nations? I'm waiting to see it, but I won't. The UN likes to debate, they visit other nations and the news media makes a big deal about it, and they sometimes guard missionaries. Moreover, they're your neighbors. Why isn't Australia helping Tazania into the 21st century? I don't see Tanzania moving into the microchip business soon.
Damn, I wish China was a bit more proactive... where would you be then?
You think so? Funny thing about China. They are moving quickly in the direction of Capitalism. The old regime is beginning to die off or simply adapt. As to military might...Well, China has an awful lot of people to carry shovels and dig holes.
The only thing that has kept your country alive is nuclear missiles, and can you imagine the international opinion drop?
No, we have kept ourselves aline through political and economic means. Nuclear missiles help, but they can't fight a war for you. Nukes are like planes and artillery. Sure, you can bomb an area back into the Stone Age, but then what? Someone actually has to walk in and hold it. That's called infantry. We have a lot, but not enough to threaten the whole world with, nor to hold onto very much bombed-out territory.
Oh but of course other opinions don't matter to America; Land of the free.
"Land of the Free and home of the Brave," is the saying. We fully believe that. It's part of why we are interested in the world as a whole. It's part of the reason we will become involved when your nation calls for help. Having grown up in the United States and having visited a great many countries around the world for extended periods of time, I can say that I would rather be here than anywhere else. Perhaps it's why there is so much emmigration from other nations to the United States. Opinions do matter, but not enough to really worry us. We prefer peace, but prepare for war. Piss off.

The_DEA
04-28-2004, 08:49 AM
ron you nailed that son of a bitch right on the head

GottaHurt
04-28-2004, 10:01 AM
Well stated Ron.

ron
04-28-2004, 10:16 AM
Well stated Ron.
You know, thanks to all of my supporters. It's good to know that some people have a clue. I'm really getting tired of having to state the same thing over and over again for these pinheads who engage their fingers before their brains.

I mean, do any of these people actually know anything about the world besides what was fed to them last night on the news or by their great aunt who visited the USA once at the height of the Cold War?

Get a fucking clue, you foreign assholes! We accept immigrants from your country and damned near everyone else. We let them come here and don't even require them to learn more English than is required to repeat the "Pledge of Allegiance," and they don't even have to get a job thanks to liberals taking FDR's "New Deal" plan to the farthest extremes of sensibility. When they do find jobs, many of them live like animals so they can send more money back home to their families. Never mind the illegal aliens who come here and collect unemployment without ever having paid a penny into it.

Non-Americans: we buy the shit your country produces (we don't even tax it heavily), we send money and resources (including professional soldiers and other trained personnel) to your country when you ask for it, we settle the disputes you can't, and we take all of the people who would rather live somewhere other than your country. Fuck off and fix your country before you bitch about ours, you ignorant bastards!

There, that ought to start a holy war. Pinheads.

Solanaceae
04-29-2004, 04:13 AM
You know, thanks to all of my supporters. It's good to know that some people have a clue. I'm really getting tired of having to state the same thing over and over again for these pinheads who engage their fingers before their brains.

I mean, do any of these people actually know anything about the world besides what was fed to them last night on the news or by their great aunt who visited the USA once at the height of the Cold War?

Get a fucking clue, you foreign assholes! We accept immigrants from your country and damned near everyone else. We let them come here and don't even require them to learn more English than is required to repeat the "Pledge of Allegiance," and they don't even have to get a job thanks to liberals taking FDR's "New Deal" plan to to farthest extremes of sensibility. When they do find jobs, many of them live like animals so they can send more money back home to their families. Never mind the illegal aliens who come here and collect unemployment without ever having paid a penny into it.

Non-Americans: we buy the shit your country produces (we don't even tax it heavily), we send money and resources (including professional soldiers and other trained personnel) to your country when you ask for it, we settle the disputes you can't, and we take all of the people who would rather live somewhere other than your country. Fuck off and fix your country before you bitch about ours, you ignorant bastards!

There, that ought to start a holy war. Pinheads.

Man, I see you have supporters. Very good, just so happens that they are both Americans.
Don't talk to me about forieners moving to another country, we have about 10% (literally) of the greek population. We have illegal immigrants, continuously coming across to the christmas islands, and ending up in detention. Our country has quite a good economy, I belive the AU$ is buying about US$.75, and is gaining fast, you may have held it at bay for the time being with your war, but the way your overall economy is heading (and don't deny it; even your own economists say it). And may i remind you, that if you were trying to ridicule me would you not use "Jihad" not holy way, I am not Lobo, i do not stand and annoy. I raise valid points. I am not saying you don't by all means I can see you are an intelligent person. As for being neibours with Tanzania, IT IS A FUCKING LANDLOCKED COUNTRY, AUSTRALIA IS AN ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACIFIC AND INDIAN OCEANS! Oh, and the UN is doing alot to help the starving people in 3rd world countries, they do alot of debating, but it all so that no mistakes are made. Unlike America, who has a president evidently trying to fulfill his father's ambition (which he has succeeded at). That's democracy for you, and i hate the fact Australia is a democratic nation.
Oh and can you not see that taking over a plane isn't going to scare the people who know they are going to die when they get off the plane and through customs, they are suicide bombers dipshit. If all the windows around you smashed and the ground shook and you had no hearing anymore, would you not surrender? That's the effects of a sonicboom. A terror cell is not going to want to commit suicide while they have a job to do.
Oh, i belive there was a time where a nuke did fight a war, the place was called Hiroshima. After that the Japanese stopped fighting, they didn't want to risk civilians. And you thought the WTC was devestating. And I am telling you now, we get more of you guys coming here than us go over there.
When was the lst time we asked aid of you? NEVER! You ask it of us.
And you know US, and Australia have a free trade agrrement, so we buy your stuff as well. Now who is the ignorant bastard? :gun: :bomb: :sword:

GottaHurt
04-29-2004, 07:43 AM
Are you still rambling about the fucking sonic boom? Your ideas of fighting a war are tapped, so STFU about it. You're guarding a concrete factory, because the Supreme Commander in theater assigned you to it, because you're too fucking stupid to do anything else.Who's the dummies? You folks are, we talked you into going to Iraq, and you went along, lead you right by the nose did we, and you followed like the faithful sheep.So STFU.

Now you start spewing forth more non sense about the Aussie dollar blah blah blah blah blah, who gives a fuck about the Aussie dollar? Not a hot topic around here, I can assure you of that.

All these Americans flocking to Australia? They're there on vacation moron, to see the Sydney Opera House and The Great Barrier Reef, then c'ya later goodbye.They're not staying, they're not immigrating to your barren wasteland.Who the fuck eats kangaroo? Let me guess....

Let me set the record straight for you sport, you Aussies are a bunch of convict rejects thrown out of the British Empire and bannished to an island.

We Americans left on our own free will, to establish the greatest country the world has ever known.If you despise us so much, then why do you want to hang out with us?

Until next time, take it in the face.

ron
04-29-2004, 12:04 PM
As for being neibours with Tanzania, IT IS A FUCKING LANDLOCKED COUNTRY, AUSTRALIA IS AN ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACIFIC AND INDIAN OCEANS!
You're right; I made a mistake. I was thinking of Tazmania.

ron
04-29-2004, 12:40 PM
OK, now the good stuff.
Man, I see you have supporters. Very good, just so happens that they are both Americans.
Nothing wrong with that at all. I don't see your point.
Don't talk to me about forieners moving to another country, we have about 10% (literally) of the greek population. We have illegal immigrants, continuously coming across to the christmas islands, and ending up in detention.
By the way, nice job you've done with the aboriginal peoples.

Our country has quite a good economy, I belive the AU$ is buying about US$.75, and is gaining fast, you may have held it at bay for the time being with your war, but the way your overall economy is heading (and don't deny it; even your own economists say it).
That's funny. No one here is concerned with the power of the Australian dollar, mate.

And may i remind you, that if you were trying to ridicule me would you not use "Jihad" not holy way, I am not Lobo, i do not stand and annoy. I raise valid points. I am not saying you don't by all means I can see you are an intelligent person.
You may, but I don't know what Lobo has to do with anything. I wasn't trying to ridicule you with the "holy war" reference. I was adding a little humor to the end of my post. I've done it before in other threads. Check it out. I'll wait.

As for using "holy war," rather than "jihad," that was a choice based on the level of literacy I have seen demonstrated on this forum. I didn't want anyone to think I was trying to ridicule them.
Oh, and the UN is doing alot to help the starving people in 3rd world countries, they do alot of debating, but it all so that no mistakes are made. Unlike America, who has a president evidently trying to fulfill his father's ambition (which he has succeeded at). That's democracy for you, and i hate the fact Australia is a democratic nation.
The UN is doing a lot of media time. Their people travel all over the world looking at things, observing, sometimes even getting their hands dirty, but what else? Where was the UN when Saddam Hussein imprisoned all of those children so that their fathers would remain loyal? Where is the UN in combating known growers, manufacturers, and exporters of drugs? Where was the UN when my unit was sent to Thailand to fight an insurgent warlord? Where was the UN when my unit was again sent to Thailand, this time to kill slavers who were part of a criminal ring with supporters all over the world, specifically in the Middle East?

I'll tell you where. They were in debate. They are aware of all the myriad problems in the world, but they fix precious few.

Do you have any idea what it's like to open a room to find that it is full of 14 and 15 year old girls destined to be sold around the world in exchange for weapons, drugs, and simple power brokering? Of course not. Neither does anyone in the UN. They're too busy debating and kissing up to France to get involved in any actual operations.
Oh and can you not see that taking over a plane isn't going to scare the people who know they are going to die when they get off the plane and through customs, they are suicide bombers dipshit.
Suicide bombers know what they are getting into. If they were frightened, they wouldn't do it. Dipshit.
If all the windows around you smashed and the ground shook and you had no hearing anymore, would you not surrender?
Um, no. You're talking to a combat veteran, dipshit.
A terror cell is not going to want to commit suicide while they have a job to do.
Oh, I agree, except that suicide bombers are normally part of terror groups. The remainder of the group remains to take credit and continue operations. Suicide bombers die. It's part of the job.
Oh, i belive there was a time where a nuke did fight a war, the place was called Hiroshima. After that the Japanese stopped fighting, they didn't want to risk civilians. And you thought the WTC was devestating.
The nuke didn't fight the war, it ended the war.

And I am telling you now, we get more of you guys coming here than us go over there.
Those are tourists, dumbass.

When was the lst time we asked aid of you? NEVER! You ask it of us.
I think you are referring to the SEATO Accords and your country's pledge to aid us in conflicts of mutual interest. That's called a treaty.
And you know US, and Australia have a free trade agrrement, so we buy your stuff as well.
Yes, our nations certainly do trade with one another. You're rambling.
Now who is the ignorant bastard?
Still you, I think.

Solanaceae
04-30-2004, 04:22 AM
OK, now the good stuff.

Nothing wrong with that at all. I don't see your point.

By the way, nice job you've done with the aboriginal peoples.


That's funny. No one here is concerned with the power of the Australian dollar, mate.


You may, but I don't know what Lobo has to do with anything. I wasn't trying to ridicule you with the "holy war" reference. I was adding a little humor to the end of my post. I've done it before in other threads. Check it out. I'll wait.

As for using "holy war," rather than "jihad," that was a choice based on the level of literacy I have seen demonstrated on this forum. I didn't want anyone to think I was trying to ridicule them.

The UN is doing a lot of media time. Their people travel all over the world looking at things, observing, sometimes even getting their hands dirty, but what else? Where was the UN when Saddam Hussein imprisoned all of those children so that their fathers would remain loyal? Where is the UN in combating known growers, manufacturers, and exporters of drugs? Where was the UN when my unit was sent to Thailand to fight an insurgent warlord? Where was the UN when my unit was again sent to Thailand, this time to kill slavers who were part of a criminal ring with supporters all over the world, specifically in the Middle East?

I'll tell you where. They were in debate. They are aware of all the myriad problems in the world, but they fix precious few.

Do you have any idea what it's like to open a room to find that it is full of 14 and 15 year old girls destined to be sold around the world in exchange for weapons, drugs, and simple power brokering? Of course not. Neither does anyone in the UN. They're too busy debating and kissing up to France to get involved in any actual operations.

Suicide bombers know what they are getting into. If they were frightened, they wouldn't do it. Dipshit.

Um, no. You're talking to a combat veteran, dipshit.

Oh, I agree, except that suicide bombers are normally part of terror groups. The remainder of the group remains to take credit and continue operations. Suicide bombers die. It's part of the job.

The nuke didn't fight the war, it ended the war.


Those are tourists, dumbass.


I think you are referring to the SEATO Accords and your country's pledge to aid us in conflicts of mutual interest. That's called a treaty.

Yes, our nations certainly do trade with one another. You're rambling.

Still you, I think.

My point was, they are moer likely to side with a countryman (and i know that is not a bad thing, it is just typical)

And are you seriously going to blame me for the crimes committed well before my time? Why don't I just say, "great job you have done with the indians". Are you saying that they all end up in detention? No, there are hardly any Aboriginals in detention, the ones that are in detention here are the fleeing Afgans and Iraqis.

And hey man, I never said that anyone cares about the AU$, i was just commenting that your economy isn't that much better than ours, and your's is failing fast.

I am sure that the UN would do somthing in those places, except, you had already cleaned it all up (I am not saying that it is wrong, but I don't think you aught to blame them for the fact that your country took initiative)

And NO! of course I don't know what it is like to see slaves destined for the life their name entails. And i truthfully do not want to know.

And i believe the fact that suicide bombers know what they are getting into was sort of my point there...

Uh, and I know I have not experienced this but have you ever been close to a sonicboom?

The nuke did what a cataclysmic fight would have done, ergo, it did the fighting.

Oh, and this is still pretty ignorant of you, Tasmania, is an island off the sothern coast of australia. which is part of Australia, also no-where near Tanzania.

Oh, and other people, don't try and get into this debate, I am having fun here.

GottaHurt
04-30-2004, 07:56 AM
And hey man, I never said that anyone cares about the AU$, i was just commenting that your economy isn't that much better than ours, and your's is failing fast.

Our economy is rolling dickbreath, looks like you're another fool who believes the liberal media in an election year.



I am sure that the UN would do somthing in those places


The UN doesn't do jackshit, they are one of the most corrupt and useless organizations, period.



Uh, and I know I have not experienced this but have you ever been close to a sonicboom?


Yes I have, and it's apparent that you've stood too close too many times, because you keep hanging on to the notion that this is some sort of miracle weapon.You used it against people who live in a war/terror zone 24/7/365.
They're going to run initially, but it's a one time pop, idiot.You fooled them once, it won't happen again.



The nuke did what a cataclysmic fight would have done, ergo, it did the fighting.


No, once again, an outsiders perspective. It ended the war, and saved American lives.



Oh, and this is still pretty ignorant of you, Tasmania, is an island off the sothern coast of australia. which is part of Australia, also no-where near Tanzania.

Who gives a fuck, obviously we don't. The world revolves around us.Not some podunk island by your country.


ron
04-30-2004, 09:13 AM
ron you nailed that son of a bitch right on the headI'm a little tired of repeating myself to these pubescent twits. I'd really just like to nail his ass to a rock and walk away. Poor <insert-country-or-ethnic-group-name-here>. The USA is bad, blah, blah, blah, the USA is the police force for the world, blah, blah, we're so much better than the USA, blah, blah, Bush, blah, blah, blah.

If we don't police up after the rest of your nations, who will? You obviously can't police yourselves.

You know, we ought to withdraw from the UN and make those fuckers find another place to play. Kick out the UN completely! We'll withdraw all of our foreign aid, too, and every single human being we have serving in any capacity anywhere. Of course, it goes without saying that we'd have to close our borders and severely limit access to Disney World. I hope you fuckers enjoy having to look after yourselves.

Hmm...New thread entitled "Twits of All Nations."

ron
04-30-2004, 09:15 AM
Man i would love to join the UN led coalition and fuck up you arrogant sons of bitches.We'd just use your own secret weapon against you: the sonic boom!

The_DEA
04-30-2004, 09:28 AM
We'd just use your own secret weapon against you: the sonic boom!
lol boom!!!!!!!!!! muhahahahaha

ron
04-30-2004, 09:35 AM
My point was, they are moer likely to side with a countryman (and i know that is not a bad thing, it is just typical)
Actually, they are more likely to side with whomever makes the most sense.

And are you seriously going to blame me for the crimes committed well before my time? Why don't I just say, "great job you have done with the indians". Are you saying that they all end up in detention? No, there are hardly any Aboriginals in detention, the ones that are in detention here are the fleeing Afgans and Iraqis.
You and the Finnish guy are blaming us for all of the perceived injustice of the last century. Why not blame you for your treatment of the aboriginal peoples of Australia? We all know it was wrong to treat the native Americans like our government did. Slavery was wrong, too, and it's been over for a long time, but we still catch shit about it to this day. It's called history. We can all sling shit over history.

And hey man, I never said that anyone cares about the AU$, i was just commenting that your economy isn't that much better than ours, and your's is failing fast.
Actually, our economy is improving and it really was not that bad. But, since you only believe what you see on television and you don't live here, you really would not know.

I am sure that the UN would do somthing in those places, except, you had already cleaned it all up (I am not saying that it is wrong, but I don't think you aught to blame them for the fact that your country took initiative)
The UN visits far more troubled places than does our military. I haven't seen much from them. Overall, we're not impressed.

And NO! of course I don't know what it is like to see slaves destined for the life their name entails. And i truthfully do not want to know.My point, exactly. Neither do most people who endlessly debate as part of the UN. It's pretty rough. You probably could not handle it. You know what, though? It's part of life. It's part of our world. It's part of the reason the United States of America cares enough to exert a little tough love at the expense of worldwide public opinion. Who gives a shit what other countries think about our operations? We don't. I'll tell you who does appreciate our policies: those girls of many nationalities who are now reunited with their families.

And i believe the fact that suicide bombers know what they are getting into was sort of my point there...You sort of rambled on that point in your post, so we'll consider it even. I'm not sure what point you were trying to make in your posts.

Uh, and I know I have not experienced this but have you ever been close to a sonicboom? Yes...It's not that big a deal. It's loud and shakes the ground. Lots of things do that. You got lucky in using it. I would not amend The Art of War to include its use.


The nuke did what a cataclysmic fight would have done, ergo, it did the fighting.No, after years of fighting we dropped nuclear devices on two Japanese cities, thus ending the war. The bomb did not fight, but it took to fight right out of the Japanese and their allies.

Oh, and this is still pretty ignorant of you, Tasmania, is an island off the sothern coast of australia. which is part of Australia, also no-where near Tanzania.I already said I made a mistake, so drop it. You're like a pitbull, but you hang on the irrelavant issues. Dipshit.

Oh, and other people, don't try and get into this debate, I am having fun here.That's like sending people an invitation.

The_DEA
04-30-2004, 09:42 AM
"you suck jackass" adam sandler happy gilmore

Solanaceae
04-30-2004, 08:58 PM
Actually, they are more likely to side with whomever makes the most sense.
And the one that makes the most sense to them would be the one who supports the place they live.


You and the Finnish guy are blaming us for all of the perceived injustice of the last century. Why not blame you for your treatment of the aboriginal peoples of Australia? We all know it was wrong to treat the native Americans like our government did. Slavery was wrong, too, and it's been over for a long time, but we still catch shit about it to this day. It's called history. We can all sling shit over history.
Again, my point. You just reversed it. Dumbass.


Actually, our economy is improving and it really was not that bad. But, since you only believe what you see on television and you don't live here, you really would not know.
And what else am i supposed to beleive? Not as if anyone else tries to pull this planet out of ignorancy.


The UN visits far more troubled places than does our military. I haven't seen much from them. Overall, we're not impressed.{/QUOTE]
I can see that, if you don't want them there, why don't you just kick them out? Because it is vital for your diplomacy. Who is going to attack a country who has the most infulential body in the world residing there.

[QUOTE=ron]My point, exactly. Neither do most people who endlessly debate as part of the UN. It's pretty rough. You probably could not handle it. You know what, though? It's part of life. It's part of our world. It's part of the reason the United States of America cares enough to exert a little tough love at the expense of worldwide public opinion. Who gives a shit what other countries think about our operations? We don't. I'll tell you who does appreciate our policies: those girls of many nationalities who are now reunited with their families.
Of course they do, but i am sure they would not like thier country being occupied by foreing forces.


Yes...It's not that big a deal. It's loud and shakes the ground. Lots of things do that. You got lucky in using it. I would not amend The Art of War to include its use.
I never said it was an amazing feat. It was just a nice choice of weapon at the time.


No, after years of fighting we dropped nuclear devices on two Japanese cities, thus ending the war. The bomb did not fight, but it took to fight right out of the Japanese and their allies.
Seriously, would you go on to attack a coutry who could unfairly level a city in seconds?


That's like sending people an invitation.
Yeah, a mistake on my part.

rio258k
05-05-2004, 08:00 PM
Go America! Aussie Propaganda Sucks! STFU...... pansies, a sonic boom....

_Kitana_
05-05-2004, 10:03 PM
And the one that makes the most sense to them would be the one who supports the place they live.



Again, my point. You just reversed it. Dumbass.



And what else am i supposed to beleive? Not as if anyone else tries to pull this planet out of ignorancy.



Of course they do, but i am sure they would not like thier country being occupied by foreing forces.



I never said it was an amazing feat. It was just a nice choice of weapon at the time.



Seriously, would you go on to attack a coutry who could unfairly level a city in seconds?



Yeah, a mistake on my part.


weak attacks not worth a reply to and basically you made yourself sound like an idiot

Next

Solanaceae
05-06-2004, 02:55 AM
weak attacks not worth a reply to and basically you made yourself sound like an idiot

Next
dude, shut the fuck up. Man that was fucking weak you pussy. Hmmm, the girls here think they are tough, has anyone else noticed?

ron
05-06-2004, 07:40 AM
And what else am i supposed to beleive? Not as if anyone else tries to pull this planet out of ignorancy.Why not stop relying on someone else to do it and pull yourself out of ignorance? It's not that hard.

Yeah, a mistake on my part.Not the first.

zigz
05-06-2004, 07:58 AM
Well, yet another way to piss me off. You may have noticed that tax season has come and gone. Some people are still scrambling to complete their taxes after filing an extension because they were too stupid or lazy to go through their receipts ahead of time and file the paperwork by 15 April. I hate paying taxes, but I do it as early as I can, usually in the first week of February. I always get money back. Being a homeowner and the father of three helps. But, I digress.

I made the mistake of discussing taxes recently with my sister, a normally very intelligent 19-year-old who will probably graduate college before I. In our conversation, she hit upon the idea that "poor" people should pay no taxes and that "rich" people (our parents, me, anyone who makes a decent living according to the Democrats) should pay more. Further, these taxes should then be divided amongst the poor in Robin Hood fashion to help put everyone on the same terms economically.

Huh? I blinked and tried to imagine where she had gotten these ideas. I told her that I thought she had been listening to too many liberal professors at college. She didn't agree and a verbal brawl ensued.

I tried to explain that those of us who work for a living and pay taxes on our income worked hard for that money in an attempt to provide for the standard of living she and people like her now enjoy. I further explained that obtaining said gainful employment is beyond no one and that our society will never be one where everyone is equal in economic status. Some people have no ambition, some people are lazy, some people love to work, etc. Some people are so stupid that I wonder how they manage to breathe (Maddonx).

She remained unconvinced. She went on and on about how beautiful our world would be if wealth was divided equally; the clouds would part, sun would shine in, angels would sing, and we'd all have a Coke and smile.

Whatever. I don't normally like to hurt her feelings, but I began to think that I had no other choice. I explained that it was called Communism, that it had been tried, and that it had failed in every attempt. Then, an epiphany.

My sister has always, always been a 4.0 student. She was born 30 and just grew bigger. She works hard for her grades and will undoubtedly go far in professional life. I asked about her friend, Katie. Katie has never been the greatest student, but she always passes her classes; she is the stereotypical C student. Katie is no good at math and had real trouble with college algebra, managing to pull out a C. My sister, of course, had made an A.

So, I suggested that she take her A and make it a B, then she could give the extra grade point to Katie, making her C a B. I have always thought that 3.0 is a great GPA. In this scenario, they both win.

My sister flipped. She started yelling defensively about how hard she worked for her grades, telling me about the late nights studying and the missed parties.

"That's just not fair! I worked really hard for those grades and giving up some so that someone else has a better GPA is just wrong!" she cried.

"Kind of like your new tax system," I said. She froze and her mouth dropped open. She didn't say another word. Score.

In retrospect, I put this in the wrong part of the forum. Unless you want to debate it.cool.
but you have to think,
wool-eyes syndrome.
you work more...you pay more tax...

when youve got a job like my friend, the average £200 a week, £20 is just a pi**take
i dont have a job, im at college. (which i admit is outrageous as your tax is whats paying for me to be here)
but dont worry, your money is going to a good cause...

by the way, sorry to post so late. it seems theres alot of pointless garble following from the initial valid point (of which being yours ron)

Solanaceae
05-06-2004, 08:05 PM
by the way, sorry to post so late. it seems theres alot of pointless garble following from the initial valid point (of which being yours ron)

It really is pointless garble...

It seems to have died off though, as arguments are won and lost, Ron seems to be having trouble finding somthing to debate about... That was realy bad man, no offence... And I do pull myself out of ignorance, it is just the TV has alot of information, if you have the right channels.
Dude, it ain't as if you have never made a fucking mistake... get over it. Nobody's perfect. Except my girlfriend... ;)

buck~fush
05-06-2004, 09:11 PM
Hmm, I am just happy I live in Australia... none of your pig headed american opinions... I say "live and let live", which of course is a quote i didn't create... but I believe in it all the same. Can't you people let others have thier own opinions? And if you hadn't noticed but, China, is still a communist country, and seems to be running itself satifactorily. Hey even Iraq was running smotly until you guys stuck your opinion in. How dare you guys get the SAS in all that (special australian services; Aussie commandos). They have saved your ass on more than one occasion *cough* Vietnam*cough*, but i suppose none of you remember that.


Oh fuck no. You are the most stereotypical fuck I've ever heard of in my life. "Pig headed americans" Yah wtf ever kangaroo jack. Just b/c you guys are pussies doesn't mean you get to slam us. Don't get me wrong, (by my name) you should be able to tell I'm not one of those Bush buddies, I could care less about the fucker. But I do think ur one dumbass mofo saying we do not let ppl speak their mind. DON'T YOU KNOW HOW TO READ? Look around these forums. You'll see posts with all kinds of titles basically saying that the FCC needs to fuck off. Sorry bitch but I think one american just unleashed on UR ASS. CRIKEY THAT ONE MATE.

ron
05-07-2004, 07:44 AM
It really is pointless garble...

It seems to have died off though, as arguments are won and lost, Ron seems to be having trouble finding somthing to debate about... That was realy bad man, no offence... And I do pull myself out of ignorance, it is just the TV has alot of information, if you have the right channels.Um, he meant that you were posting pointless garble, pinhead.

As to finding something to debate about, I have been working more lately, so I have less time to debate with you over things you know little about.

I'll tea-bag you later.

zigz
05-07-2004, 09:04 AM
Um, he meant that you were posting pointless garble, pinhead.

As to finding something to debate about, I have been working more lately, so I have less time to debate with you over things you know little about.

I'll tea-bag you later.pointless garble being anything irrelevant to the original post.
and im quite certain you all participated to one of those posts in one way or another...

_Kitana_
05-07-2004, 01:40 PM
you know...

topics twist and change and move on... maybe we have twisted some of these beyond belief but still...

thats what happens on a forum

GwendyJ666
05-07-2004, 02:29 PM
Let's see here, first we bailed out the French, by sending in wave after wave of us troops - more than 2.59 million people served in Vietnam from 1962 - 1972. Australia contributed about 40,000 people throughout the conflict. Wait, they were probably all badasses, right? Thanks coming to the rescue. Fact is - if Australia were to have a natural disaster, or large terrorist attack, the first country to offer help (and coincidentally, the first place the Aussie gov't would look) would be the US. Case in point - North Korea.

Just be glad that your continent is wasteland. Otherwise New Zealand would have invaded you long ago. Y'all may play some rugby but your army is a farce. I've trained with Aussies, and the best thing I can say is that their uniforms looked clean. These guys made the Canadian Army (read girl scouts) look professional.

Haha.... canadian..... girlscouts..... hahaha. mmmmm... cookies....

yowatupdogg
05-07-2004, 06:32 PM
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twofivekidd9
05-08-2004, 09:55 AM
:mfinger: :mfinger: :mfinger: :mfinger: :mfinger:

Solanaceae
05-09-2004, 05:53 AM
Um, he meant that you were posting pointless garble, pinhead.

As to finding something to debate about, I have been working more lately, so I have less time to debate with you over things you know little about.

I'll tea-bag you later.
Umm, dude i was agreeing the things we were arguing over is pointless garble. I am a very bored person, i am entertained by an argument, even if it is pointless, which is why i am still here posting. Which is also why I joined these forums.
It also maybe se so that i know little about the thing I debate over, but that's what makes it fun, winning opinions is always good fun. even if i have to overflow with drivle to make it happen. Sadly the Americans have taken up a rally behind thier flag, i cannot break that... Who here thinks America is a piece of shit and should be wasted with their own warheads. And if you didn't realise, that is the opinion of most countries. Oh, and i have figured out why you guys are getting so many immigrants that you dont want. BECAUSE YOU CAN APPLY FOR U.S. CITIZENSHIP OVER THE FUCKING INTERNET. IT IS YOUR OWN COUNTRIES FAULT.
And, I would like to point out a misnomer, America's "green cards" have not been green for some 25 years.

Oh fuck no. You are the most stereotypical fuck I've ever heard of in my life. "Pig headed americans" Yah wtf ever kangaroo jack. Just b/c you guys are pussies doesn't mean you get to slam us. Don't get me wrong, (by my name) you should be able to tell I'm not one of those Bush buddies, I could care less about the fucker. But I do think ur one dumbass mofo saying we do not let ppl speak their mind. DON'T YOU KNOW HOW TO READ? Look around these forums. You'll see posts with all kinds of titles basically saying that the FCC needs to fuck off. Sorry bitch but I think one american just unleashed on UR ASS. CRIKEY THAT ONE MATE
It would be a nice thing to do; to not be stereotypical while accusing somone of being stereotypical. And can you safely say, beyond as shadow of a doubt that the people on these forums are not pig-headed Americans? I wouldn't have thought so. And judging from the replies I am getting they are. so shove that up wherever you "Pig-Headed Americans" shove stuff. :mfinger:

ron
05-17-2004, 07:52 AM
Umm, dude i was agreeing the things we were arguing over is pointless garble. I am a very bored person, i am entertained by an argument, even if it is pointless, which is why i am still here posting.I'm sorry to hear that. It sounds like you need a hobby; something away from the computer, for instance. Get some fresh air.
It also maybe se so that i know little about the thing I debate over, but that's what makes it fun, winning opinions is always good fun.So, you argue for the sake of argument. That's annoying. I normally punch people like you in person. I think it's part of the reason BBS parties stopped happening; too many forum assholes tried their shit in person and were beaten.
even if i have to overflow with drivle to make it happen.That's even more annoying. It's also sad, since it points to a lack of direction and conviction on your part.
Sadly the Americans have taken up a rally behind thier flag, i cannot break that...We're proud to be Americans. That will not change. You will not convince us to be otherwise.
Who here thinks America is a piece of shit and should be wasted with their own warheads.Try it. More to the point, you know of America only what you have garnered through mass media and hearsay. You know nothing of our culture. You know nothing of the American people. You know nothing of real hotdogs. Go read my tongue-in-cheek post about "Ron's House of Americana." That's a pretty typical day in the life of most Americans, varied by their personal preferences. We're not bad people, for the most part, and your "worldy" view is rather scewed and out-of-focus. It's especially annoying for non-Americans to constantly harp on all the perceived badness of the USA. The reality is that most other nations in the world are not willing to intervene in world affairs to the degree that we are willing to do so. You'll bitch and moan about how bad the yanks are or how high gasoline prices are or whatever, and then you'll change the channel and watch a sitcom. Pathetic.
And if you didn't realise, that is the opinion of most countries. And, if you didn't realize, though I have pointed it out before, we don't really care. We defend our nation out of pride. Most people in the world do so. National pride is a good thing. We like being Americans. Our country is far from perfect, but Utopia does not exist, even in Finland.
Oh, and i have figured out why you guys are getting so many immigrants that you dont want. BECAUSE YOU CAN APPLY FOR U.S. CITIZENSHIP OVER THE FUCKING INTERNET. IT IS YOUR OWN COUNTRIES FAULT. No, we are getting so many immigrants because our government allows immigration. That someone chooses to advertise for citizenship over the Internet does not surprise me. I don't like it, but it happens. I'd love to close our borders to immigration for a few years and then watch events unfold around the world. I'm sure we'd catch Hell for that, too, because we're not allowing other nations to dispose of their unwanted citizenry on our shores. Too fucking bad. Deal with it.
And, I would like to point out a misnomer, America's "green cards" have not been green for some 25 years.Irrelavant.


It would be a nice thing to do; to not be stereotypical while accusing somone of being stereotypical. Yes it would, starting with you and your anti-American rhetoric.
And can you safely say, beyond as shadow of a doubt that the people on these forums are not pig-headed Americans?No, I cannot safely say that there are no pig-headed Americans here. Oh well. If that bothers you, leave and start your own forum, then block any American IP addresses. I'm sure that would be a hit.
I wouldn't have thought so. To indicate yourself and the concept of thought in the same sentence is almost an oxymoron. You don't seem to have many original thoughts. Perhaps I'm wrong. Please, prove me wrong.
And judging from the replies I am getting they are. so shove that up wherever you "Pig-Headed Americans" shove stuff. :mfinger:Are you about to cry? Please, have a tissue. Take a few minutes to collect yourself. I'll wait. Go outside for a breath of fresh air.

otepsoul
05-17-2004, 09:46 AM
I'm sorry to hear that. It sounds like you need a hobby; something away from the computer, for instance. Get some fresh air.
So, you argue for the sake of argument. That's annoying. I normally punch people like you in person. I think it's part of the reason BBS parties stopped happening; too many forum assholes tried their shit in person and were beaten.
That's even more annoying. It's also sad, since it points to a lack of direction and conviction on your part.
We're proud to be Americans. That will not change. You will not convince us to be otherwise.
Try it. More to the point, you know of America only what you have garnered through mass media and hearsay. You know nothing of our culture. You know nothing of the American people. You know nothing of real hotdogs. Go read my tongue-in-cheek post about "Ron's House of Americana." That's a pretty typical day in the life of most Americans, varied by their personal preferences. We're not bad people, for the most part, and your "worldy" view is rather scewed and out-of-focus. It's especially annoying for non-Americans to constantly harp on all the perceived badness of the USA. The reality is that most other nations in the world are not willing to intervene in world affairs to the degree that we are willing to do so. You'll bitch and moan about how bad the yanks are or how high gasoline prices are or whatever, and then you'll change the channel and watch a sitcom. Pathetic.
And, if you didn't realize, though I have pointed it out before, we don't really care. We defend our nation out of pride. Most people in the world do so. National pride is a good thing. We like being Americans. Our country is far from perfect, but Utopia does not exist, even in Finland.
No, we are getting so many immigrants because our government allows immigration. That someone chooses to advertise for citizenship over the Internet does not surprise me. I don't like it, but it happens. I'd love to close our borders to immigration for a few years and then watch events unfold around the world. I'm sure we'd catch Hell for that, too, because we're not allowing other nations to dispose of their unwanted citizenry on our shores. Too fucking bad. Deal with it.
Irrelavent.


Yes it would, starting with you and your anti-American rhetoric.
No, I cannot safely say that there are no pig-headed Americans here. Oh well. If that bothers you, leave and start your own forum, then block any American IP addresses. I'm sure that would be a hit.
To indicate yourself and the concept of thought in the same sentence is almost an oxymoron. You don't seem to have many original thoughts. Perhaps I'm wrong. Please, prove me wrong.
Are you about to cry? Please, have a tissue. Take a few minutes to collect yourself. I'll wait. Go outside for a breath of fresh air.
hmmm its been awhile wonder what happen.

Solanaceae
05-18-2004, 01:50 AM
I'm sorry to hear that. It sounds like you need a hobby; something away from the computer, for instance. Get some fresh air.
So, you argue for the sake of argument. That's annoying. I normally punch people like you in person. I think it's part of the reason BBS parties stopped happening; too many forum assholes tried their shit in person and were beaten.
That's even more annoying. It's also sad, since it points to a lack of direction and conviction on your part.
We're proud to be Americans. That will not change. You will not convince us to be otherwise.
Try it. More to the point, you know of America only what you have garnered through mass media and hearsay. You know nothing of our culture. You know nothing of the American people. You know nothing of real hotdogs. Go read my tongue-in-cheek post about "Ron's House of Americana." That's a pretty typical day in the life of most Americans, varied by their personal preferences. We're not bad people, for the most part, and your "worldy" view is rather scewed and out-of-focus. It's especially annoying for non-Americans to constantly harp on all the perceived badness of the USA. The reality is that most other nations in the world are not willing to intervene in world affairs to the degree that we are willing to do so. You'll bitch and moan about how bad the yanks are or how high gasoline prices are or whatever, and then you'll change the channel and watch a sitcom. Pathetic.
And, if you didn't realize, though I have pointed it out before, we don't really care. We defend our nation out of pride. Most people in the world do so. National pride is a good thing. We like being Americans. Our country is far from perfect, but Utopia does not exist, even in Finland.
No, we are getting so many immigrants because our government allows immigration. That someone chooses to advertise for citizenship over the Internet does not surprise me. I don't like it, but it happens. I'd love to close our borders to immigration for a few years and then watch events unfold around the world. I'm sure we'd catch Hell for that, too, because we're not allowing other nations to dispose of their unwanted citizenry on our shores. Too fucking bad. Deal with it.
Irrelavant.


Yes it would, starting with you and your anti-American rhetoric.
No, I cannot safely say that there are no pig-headed Americans here. Oh well. If that bothers you, leave and start your own forum, then block any American IP addresses. I'm sure that would be a hit.
To indicate yourself and the concept of thought in the same sentence is almost an oxymoron. You don't seem to have many original thoughts. Perhaps I'm wrong. Please, prove me wrong.
Are you about to cry? Please, have a tissue. Take a few minutes to collect yourself. I'll wait. Go outside for a breath of fresh air.
Oh, I am sorry, I didn't even realise that there was antoher post here. MEh, I cbf, if he wan't me to prove him wrong I won't. That's reverse psycology for you.

_Kitana_
05-18-2004, 03:30 AM
Oh, I am sorry, I didn't even realise that there was antoher post here. MEh, I cbf, if he wan't me to prove him wrong I won't. That's reverse psycology for you.

~Ignored~

P.S. you have yet to prove anyone wrong... but yourself

Solanaceae
05-18-2004, 05:32 AM
~Ignored~

P.S. you have yet to prove anyone wrong... but yourself
Well, how would you know if you are just going to leave your head up your ass and not read it.

otepsoul
05-18-2004, 09:28 AM
Well, how would you know if you are just going to leave your head up your ass and not read it.
did you write your reply while you were up your nazi ass.

Solanaceae
05-19-2004, 12:47 AM
did you write your reply while you were up your nazi ass.
No.
And a word of advice, get your own insults you stupid ass.

_Kitana_
05-19-2004, 12:52 AM
No.
And a word of advice, get your own insults you stupid ass.

You know, i am getting kind of pissed off at you, all you can do is flame people. You use to debate. Now you don't...it's like you need to be the center of attention on this board. Its old, borning and you need to truly grow up (nothing against your age there)

we can respect younger people's ideas...but honestly... get over yourself

Solanaceae
05-19-2004, 07:44 AM
You know, i am getting kind of pissed off at you, all you can do is flame people. You use to debate. Now you don't...it's like you need to be the center of attention on this board. Its old, borning and you need to truly grow up (nothing against your age there)

we can respect younger people's ideas...but honestly... get over yourself
Sorry, I have been quite busy over the past few days, the quality will improve from now on.