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Aliensavant
01-04-2006, 02:01 PM
I don't quite know if this fits here, but it seemed likely.

About once a year, I find myself pondering human existance. I mean, not just for an hour or two like I do almost everyday, I mean for about a week long period I shut down my own influences and interaction and simply take things in. Then I sum it all up and compare it with the meaning of life. Every year my answer changes. This year, I found a hole in human conscience which drives us to exist, a void that makes us want to live. That space, of course, is the knowledge of an impending death each of us will experiance one day. It's a hole that we are driven to fill, in an attempt at immortallity, because if you fill a hole, it's suppose to dissapear, right? We live our lives out with action, influencing others, collecting material crap, and packing everything into this void so we no longer see into the darkness of it. However, when a hole is filled, it's never part of the land again, and therefore the contents only serve to disguise it temporarily. Eventually the contents of the hole will be displaced by our physical bodies and the holes become our graves while the displaced contents become our legacy. So, ultimately, we have achieved an immortality by the changes our lives have caused, which will resonate beyond our own physical demise. This drives the individual to live, this legacy. However, even that immortality lingers on the edge of a much more extensive and massive void which is the extinction of our species. Every species will experiance it, the dinosaurs were just one of the first. Now we have their legacy of bones to describe their existance. This is what drives us as a society, as a race, and as a species. The hope that our own legacy will not merely be bones which merely inspire defeat through ignorance, but inspire awe to the ones who dig us up one day and examine the contents of our culture, as societies such as the Incas and many others have already done.

This is the reason for human existance I have come up with this year.

void
01-04-2006, 02:08 PM
it's funny you say this, i looked up the definitions of void yesterday for a seperate thread, one of the definitions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Void) is
Aether (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_%28classical_element%29) as the source of all elements, the quintessence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintessence).

so, rather than the void being a lack of matter it could just be the very catalyst of all matter.

please ignore my username in this post.

Spikey
01-04-2006, 05:18 PM
I've pondered the will to live much myself. The hole, that humans live to fill. The missing peice. Fun? Happiness? Rebellion? What do humans need to live. We are cursed with superior intellect. Other animals don't have this problem. The single power to live on in the animal kingdom is summed up in one word. Food. Having to work for food may be the hole is complete self-gratification.

There were no emos or goths in the 1800's and ealy 1900's when humans still had to work for their food. In third world countrys, they know why they hate the world. They know it's unfair to them. The hole, in my opinion is only filled, when the need to live, is found.

Life is a gift. Life is grace. Grace, is getting something you don't deserve. All humans have been graced. Grace has turned into a curse. A curse on the human race. Happiness makes us forget about our curse for sometime. But then our minds wander, and the thoughts of emptyness move back into our heads. Are we selfish, are we vain, or are we spoiled?

Spikey
01-04-2006, 05:21 PM
Also, when people find it too hard, or impossible to fill the hole, and become depressed, they turn to suicide, self-harm, and lives of crime. Man was not meant to be this way. The sin of Prometheus started the deterioration of the hole when he gave man the gift of fire. Happiness will cover the hole for some time, but never always.

papagnome
01-04-2006, 08:04 PM
Aliensavant you are my hero you are the next budah my e soul is now yours
i shall nowpreach your greatness to all who will lissen

papagnome
01-04-2006, 08:18 PM
Aliensavant you are my hero you are the next budah my e soul is now yours
i shall nowpreach your greatness to all who will lissen

mmm...cheese
01-05-2006, 01:50 AM
I believe the point of living is happiness. And, if you think about it, this is the reason for living. Everybody looks to be happy. And whether it be through "filling holes" or religion, everybody try to find it. Take BUDDHA, for example, he tried to find enlightenment, which is happiness in most respects; by seeking enlightenment he was seeking to be exzempt (however the hell you spell that,) from the pains of life.

Spikey
01-06-2006, 04:26 PM
I believe the point of living is happiness. And, if you think about it, this is the reason for living. Everybody looks to be happy. And whether it be through "filling holes" or religion, everybody try to find it. Take BUDDHA, for example, he tried to find enlightenment, which is happiness in most respects; by seeking enlightenment he was seeking to be exzempt (however the hell you spell that,) from the pains of life.
Buddhism failed because Americans coudn't fast for more than three hours.
Siddhartha Gautama was a teacher and the "enlightened one". He joined a group of men who fasted and meditated, but later left the group because he felt ill. There goes that.:D
For more information on the Buddha poke my pants.