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Jugular
01-17-2006, 08:09 PM
Way before the big bang, the universe probably wasn't just created out of nothing.
How about what if the universe is all just a tiny atom on some fat guy's butt, and there a million planets, galexies, etc. everywhere?
dull_bullet
01-17-2006, 08:17 PM
Part of the theory is that the universe has just always been there, expanding and contracting. right now it's expanding. when it contracts, we'll get crushed into a singularity, and then it will have another big bang. YAY!
If it was a fat guys ass pimple we'd all smell really bad.....
junglizm
01-17-2006, 08:22 PM
How about what if the universe is all just a tiny atom on some fat guy's butt, and there a million planets, galexies, etc. everywhere?
When compared to some religious creation myths, err, I mean theories, your theory seems astoundingly valid.
If it was a fat guys ass pimple we'd all smell really bad.....
Well, it would explain cosmic gases, and 'gas giants.' :D
swizeguy
01-17-2006, 08:27 PM
Well, it would explain cosmic gases, and 'gas giants.' :D
So lame I laughed.
Avidity
01-18-2006, 07:17 AM
Part of the theory is that the universe has just always been there, expanding and contracting. right now it's expanding. when it contracts, we'll get crushed into a singularity, and then it will have another big bang. YAY!
If it was a fat guys ass pimple we'd all smell really bad.....
Some scientists are now questioning this theory(No, this isn't a creationist people rant, honest) thinking the universe will simply keep expanding and degrading and ultimately die. No more stars, no more life, just a bunch of inanimate mass. See? Atheists, you now have an apocolypse! Please gather your "end is nigh" body posters and wait in file behind the Christians as is protocol. Thank you. :yippee:
ChilianFuckFace
01-18-2006, 07:25 AM
When you are born, your universe begins. When you die, it ends. Simple. Fuck the rest. Believe what you want, say what you want and wait for proof.
i think the univer is infinite, it always has been, and always will be. galaxies and shit come and go but the universe will always be. that is what i think anyway, anyone disagree...deal with it :)
Jugular
01-18-2006, 11:24 PM
When compared to some religious creation myths, err, I mean theories, your theory seems astoundingly valid.
Well, it would explain cosmic gases, and 'gas giants.' :D
Haha, you said gas. I mean- yes, it probably is a myth, but it's an interesting thought.
dustinzgirl
01-18-2006, 11:40 PM
We are just now able to see lightwaves from the farthest reaches of space with odd patterns that could possibly be results from the first moment of OUR universes existence. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/cosmic_light_010808.html
One of the problems with earth is that we are literally seperated by a huge ass dust cloud that keeps us from truly seeing the rest of the cosmos.
The universe, by scientific theory was a flat amount of light/energy that like, came together and then became to massive and then blew up and that is pretty much the big bang. I do not think that the big bang has really anything to do with our creation or my God, I think that other lifeforms and other planets have thier own history and thier own god/gods. I know, blasphemy, I have really wierd ideas on the whole thing....anyways....you all can read the book when I get it published.
Jugular
01-18-2006, 11:56 PM
We are just now able to see lightwaves from the farthest reaches of space with odd patterns that could possibly be results from the first moment of OUR universes existence. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/cosmic_light_010808.html
One of the problems with earth is that we are literally seperated by a huge ass dust cloud that keeps us from truly seeing the rest of the cosmos.
The universe, by scientific theory was a flat amount of light/energy that like, came together and then became to massive and then blew up and that is pretty much the big bang. I do not think that the big bang has really anything to do with our creation or my God, I think that other lifeforms and other planets have thier own history and thier own god/gods. I know, blasphemy, I have really wierd ideas on the whole thing....anyways....you all can read the book when I get it published.
I never knew about that dustcloud, I learned something today. :thumbsup:
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:mfinger:
dustinzgirl
01-19-2006, 12:42 AM
I never knew about that dustcloud, I learned something today. :thumbsup:
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:mfinger:
Well now you know two things.
www.nasa.gov
We spend a lot of time there in my family.
This creeps me out though...I think I saw this movie:
01.18.06 -- NASA scientists have confirmed the Stardust return capsule contains cometary samples and interstellar dust.
"The collection of cometary particles has exceeded our expectations," said Dr. Donald Brownlee, Stardust principal investigator. "We were absolutely thrilled to see thousands of impacts on the aerogel." Aerogel is a sponge-like solid made of 99 percent empty space, ideal for capturing tiny particles.
Stardust landed in Utah on Sunday after a seven-year, three-billion-mile journey in space; the samples arrived in at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston Tuesday.
Mr. Sandman
01-19-2006, 01:46 AM
some people believe that there was a single point in the universe that sucked everything up. Sort of a like a black hole. And then at one point it became unstable. Then exploded. And now the universe is either still expanding or retracting back to that one point.
wut da fack
01-19-2006, 02:11 AM
i never knew about the dust cloud either. things like these make you wonder how big the universe can be, you could look at it in the same way you look down an airplane window when your god knows how many feet above the ground, seeing all the objects in a smaller perspective then what you are acustom to. now take that same perspective and zoom out 10 billion times, now thats just lightly touching of what our universe could possibly be.
as for my part i keep an open mind about it, why would i want to lock myself away from all the other theories and just take upon the theory which believed to be the most explicit, no, its best to be open minded and learn more to understand the sole base of what your trying to get at, in this case the universe. its much to early to clinge on into a theory b.c we only know a small spectrum of what the universe is or could be.
just my 2 cents :D
I think the universe is going to expand.. and then a giant bird is going to dump on it and its gone.
dustinzgirl
01-21-2006, 01:56 PM
I think the universe is going to expand.. and then a giant bird is going to dump on it and its gone.
Yeah that makes sense.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrld.htm
DirtyBird
01-21-2006, 02:42 PM
I've never heard of this "dust cloud" and I dont see any corroboration for that claim anywhere... Can you show me an article somewhere detailing this?
I mean I know we've got the asteroid belt, and I know the earth's atmosphere obscures our view into space... but a "dust cloud" just sounds kind of... unscientific and hearsay-ish at best...
dustinzgirl
01-21-2006, 02:58 PM
Explanation: Ominously foreshadowing events to come, a dark cloud of obscuring dust stands out against a luminous star field in the Milky Way. Cataloged as Feitzinger and Stuwe object "1-457" this fuliginous interstellar nebula is relatively close - possibly only 1,000 light-years distant. Near its core it is dense enough to block almost all of the light from the numerous, more distant stars visible toward the galactic center region. In addition to dust grains, dark nebulae which abound in the plane of our Galaxy are likely to contain interstellar gas and represent potential raw material for future star formation.
http://apod.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap990226.html
NEW TECHNOLOGY GIVES CLOSEST- EVER VIEW OF THE DUST "DONUT" SURROUNDING A MASSIVE YOUNG STAR AND A SURPRISE COMPANION
The innermost structure of the donut-shaped dust cloud surrounding a massive young star and the first glimpse of its previously unknown companion star was seen by applying new technology to the Keck telescope, Mauna Kea, Hawaii. The new technology, which uses an interferometer aperture mask in front of the telescope's secondary mirror, gives Keck at least four times greater ability to detect fine detail than the Hubble Space Telescope for small fields of view. With the aperture mask, a team of astronomers viewed regions in the surrounding dust cloud that are closer to the central star than anything previously seen, and imaged for the first time the central void in these clouds caused by the star's intense heat and radiation. The ability to see fine structure in these dust clouds is of interest to astronomers because the clouds are thought to provide the material for planet formation.
http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/gsfc/spacesci/origins/dustdonut.htm
I am a discovery, nova, science channel watching freak. There are earlier articles detailing the finding of the dust cloud, it is in the milky way somewhere, but I don't feel like hunting them down. Technology has jrecently made i possible to see beyond this mass of dust and space shit.
and just incase NASA isnt enough for you:
http://www.seds.org/messier/more/mw.html
In the infrared light, the structure of the Milky Way can be better investigated, as the obscurring dust clouds are of better transparency for long wavelength IR than for the visible light. The Cobe satellite has provided an infrared image of the Milky Way's central region.
IBaneZ4544
01-22-2006, 01:19 PM
Part of the theory is that the universe has just always been there, expanding and contracting. right now it's expanding. when it contracts, we'll get crushed into a singularity, and then it will have another big bang. YAY!
If it was a fat guys ass pimple we'd all smell really bad.....
You pretty much covered it there, I agree with everything you said :thumbsup: