I own a time machine

[King Goldfish]

If you owned a time machine, what time would you travel too and what location and why?

I think I would travel to Germany in 1939 and waste that fucktard hitler. maybe stalin too.

[Base]

Suggestion: Why not kill Hitler when he was a kid?

[squeeze_me]

go back in time and save my dad from dieing :thumbsup:

[Devien]

surely the time of the dinosaurs, get to see what they really look like, rather than looking at bones and computer animations all the time.
either that or to the time of jesus, moses, noah, etc. purely to see that they were in fact merely people with temporal lobe epilepsy.

[Base]

I'd probably head back to either the Battle of Waterloo and see mr Bigshot Napoleon lose. Or back even further to the Battle of Canne, just to see Hannible wipe out 80,000 Romans. Or, see the first invasion of Japan by the Mongols. Or witness the Battle of Thermopylae in 480 BC. hmmmmm :happysad:

[Adramelech]

Time travel is impossible. You go back in time to kill hitler, but then hitler is dead so you had no reason to build the time machine; so the time machine isn't built so hitler is alive.

[screwy]

If I'm alive the day time-travel is released to the general public, I'm shooting myself in the mouth. I don't trust anyone with a time machine. Anyone.

[Base]

If I'm alive the day time-travel is released to the general public, I'm shooting myself in the mouth. I don't trust anyone with a time machine. Anyone.

Maybe someone will go back in time and steal your gun so you can't shoot yourself. Did you think about that? HA!! :tongue:

[screwy]

I didn't. I fail. It's all over.

:suicide:

EDIT: Or not, since someone may hypothetically steal my gun.

[OmegaZeto]

I own a time machine. It's the newest working model, but it's only capable of propelling me a few hours into the future.
When I activate the machine I am knocked unconscious for a moment, and when I awake I find that I am 6-10 hours in the future.
I'm tweaking it for farther jumps, but my wife keeps disrupting the time field by demanding I get out of the time machine.

/Obscure?

[HoneyImHome]

When I activate the machine I am knocked unconscious for a moment, and when I awake I find that I am 6-10 hours in the future.

So which do you prefer? Hard liquor, beer or wine?

[Devien]

Time travel is impossible. You go back in time to kill hitler, but then hitler is dead so you had no reason to build the time machine; so the time machine isn't built so hitler is alive.
...which would mean that you do have motive to build the time machine and go back and kill hitler, so hitler would be dead. but if hes dead you wouldnt go back, so he'd be alive, which means you would go back, etc., etc.

it goes on forever, catch 22. unfortunately we'll never know what'll happen unless someone invents the time machine and tries it out

[OmegaZeto]

So which do you prefer? Hard liquor, beer or wine?

Haha, close, but no cigar.

[RetArt]

I´d travel back in time and destroy the blueprints, and the prototype of the time machine.

Or then I´d travel back in time to sink Santa Maria, Pinta and Ninã. Just for the curiosity.

[Base]

Haha, close, but no cigar.

The bed is possibly the best invention ever.

[HoneyImHome]

I like mine better Base :tongue:

[Base]

All just depends what you're doing. If you're think what I'm thinking, than time travel won't take you very far into the future before you get kicked out of it again. :D

[RageAgainst]

I'd travel back in time and kill my great-grandmother and see if I disappear

[MsChevyKat]

I'd go back and see The Grateful Dead and Big Brother and all the other cool 60's bands in SF.

Maybe do a little Sunshine...ah the possibilites are endless...:D

[junglizm]

Before I traveled back in time for anything, I'd go forward in time and get some lottery numbers and stock prices. Then I would come back to present day and buy and sell my stocks and win the lotter. Then after I was ridiculously rich I would embark on travels into the past.


/This idea was shamelessly stolen form a movie.

[TheLampIncident]

I would go back in time, kill my grandpa and have sex with my grandma, therfore making myself my own grandfather.

/also stolen

[Lord Vetinari]

I would go forward, so the same as junglizm, go forward again to educate myself,
and then go waaaay back with some kick as technology and become a proffet. Moses, Jesus, Mohammed and Buddha, and the like. Spreading curruption through the ages.

And if i would, that means i already have. Your proof is all around you!

Enjoy my creation!














(And, yes. I realise that the society that originaly created me would not exist and so on. But were's the fun in thinking it all to pieces...)

[Easty]

Well, you can't. Unless you were a mod, which you're not. Now the "Report Bad Post" function looks pretty interesting. I wonder what it does...


...no seriously, I have no fucking clue. Tell me!

[JLXC]

I'd go back to a period before men but after the dinos, pick out a nice spot, and take those I cared about with me. Maybe we'd come back for supplies now and then, but for the most part, I'd have some peace and quiet.

[BRiT]

I'd journey back in time and write The Good Book... Oh wait, I already did. :D

[polaris_nine]

I would go back in time, kill my grandpa and have sex with my grandma, therfore making myself my own grandfather.

/also stolen

ah, futurama.

I wouldn't trust anyone with a time machine either, so i'd hole up and become a crazy hermit. :happysad:

[Jane Deere]

Hmm, I would go back to when I was deciding about college in 2004. I would have gone away to Illinois State University (where I'm going next year) It would have prevented all of the torment and hell I go through at home. Yeah, that sounds realllllllllly nice.

[dirtlover]

Time travel is impossible. You go back in time to kill hitler, but then hitler is dead so you had no reason to build the time machine; so the time machine isn't built so hitler is alive.
2 things: once you ARE there, you can't dissapear. you already are there, and thoug h things might change and you never get born, you'll still exist.
and I forgot the other one. dammit.

edit: oh yeah, ever thought that even though you' travel through time you'de also travel through your time, making yourslef and infant/a dead man?

[junglizm]

2 things: once you ARE there, you can't dissapear. you already are there, and thoug h things might change and you never get born, you'll still exist.
and I forgot the other one. dammit.

edit: oh yeah, ever thought that even though you' travel through time you'de also travel through your time, making yourslef and infant/a dead man?
Ever heard of Causailty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality_%28physics%29) or the Grandfather Paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_paradox)?

It's plausible to assume that if you did something to rendered your existence void in a preceding time line, you would, in fact, cease to exist if you return to your present time line, or a future time line.

[Zickddot]

I'd probably uncreate man, and do some unnatural selection. WE WILL BE A RACE OF SUPER SOLDIERS! or I'd go see Gengis Khan.

[Elite Hunting]

I'd probably go back and hire someone to kill Oppenheimer and all his egghead buddies. Because, without the threat of nuclear weapons, I believe the world would be a whole lot safer.

[OmegaZeto]

Lemme see if I can properly explain this...
My view of time is a continued, unbroken line.
If there was a time machine, and you DID go back in time and "kill your own grandfather", then he wasn't your grandfather to begin with. If you actually DID kill your grandfather, then you would never have existed, and since you DO exist we can safely say you never did kill your grandfather.

The same goes for something like warning yourself of some future catastrophe. If you were going to go back in time and warn yourself, then you would already remember that at some point in the past your future self showed up and warned you.

I call it Bill and Ted syndrome: You know you've got the time machine, and you intend to go back to certain points in time and leave things for yourself when you are in need... You suddenly find that such things are there waiting for you. It's strange, but I don't believe that it is possible for a human to go backwards in time, so that sort of thing is moot IMO.

For further explanation of this Linear Time idea, read Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. The movie sucked dick compared to the book.

EDIT: And by "Hitchhiker's Guide" I mean the entire series. It's a hoot. 5/5

[Zickddot]

I agree, time is unchangable.

[junglizm]

Lemme see if I can properly explain this...
My view of time is a continued, unbroken line. At least you added the "my view" line in there, since you can't "properly explain" a theoretical concept like this. I think a more respectable explanation can be had from theoretical physics though, rather than science fiction novels.

At any rate, causality is an interesting subject to read up on, and comes into play in every facet of modern physics and sciences.

[Quitii]

myself, i would only go back about a year and a half ago... i'd kepp myself from hooking up with this one girl. i mean yeah, some of my best memories were because of me hooking up with her (the memories were with other people, but the whole chain of events thing because i was with her), but she's fucked up my life quite a bit. she hasn't helped my mental health at all.

[A_Zombie]

Think I would go back in time and stop slavery.

[Quitii]

Think I would go back in time and stop slavery.
now... i could argue that stopping slavery would be a bad thing.

think of it like this... if you kept slavery from happening, then black folks wouldn't have been pushed so hard for equal rights. basically they wouldnt have had as far to go to get the rights, so they wouldnt have tried so hard. i've heard somewhere a saying, something like "ya have to take a step back in order to move forward."

i'm not saying that i think slavery was a good thing, just that it can be seen as a good thing

[Brain Spout]

If you owned a time machine, what time would you travel too and what location and why?

I think I would travel to Germany in 1939 and waste that fucktard hitler. maybe stalin too.

honestly, i wouldn't kill hitler, as bad as he was doing something that alters history to that much of a degree could have disastrous consequences.

[mmmpie2]

I own a time machine. It's the newest working model, but it's only capable of propelling me a few hours into the future.
When I activate the machine I am knocked unconscious for a moment, and when I awake I find that I am 6-10 hours in the future.
I'm tweaking it for farther jumps, but my wife keeps disrupting the time field by demanding I get out of the time machine.

/Obscure?

Okay, dumbass, ever think it just knocks you out, then when you start to wake up, KEEPS you that way? Jeez, anyone will buy anything these days...

[Jack]

Okay, dumbass, ever think it just knocks you out, then when you start to wake up, KEEPS you that way? Jeez, anyone will buy anything these days...

Whatever your point was, you didn't really get it across.

[mmm...cheese]

If I'm alive the day time-travel is released to the general public, I'm shooting myself in the mouth. I don't trust anyone with a time machine. Anyone.
Exactly, but I'm not a someone, so hand it over.

[mmm...cheese]

now... i could argue that stopping slavery would be a bad thing.

think of it like this... if you kept slavery from happening, then black folks wouldn't have been pushed so hard for equal rights. basically they wouldnt have had as far to go to get the rights, so they wouldnt have tried so hard. i've heard somewhere a saying, something like "ya have to take a step back in order to move forward."

i'm not saying that i think slavery was a good thing, just that it can be seen as a good thing

It also allowed for much of America's developement.

[Quitii]

It also allowed for much of America's developement.
right cheese. thats exactly what i was saying. while the slavery itself may have not been a good thing, it had resulted in many batter things

[HappyNinja]

right cheese. thats exactly what i was saying. while the slavery itself may have not been a good thing, it had resulted in many batter things

mmmm....... battered fish... wait. What?!

The same could be said for nuclear energy. Sure, it could be used as a weapon, one that should never, ever be used again. But if it wasn't developed, we'd all still be burning coal and killing the planet... even faster than we are now..

[squeeze_me]

The bed is possibly the best invention ever.

the bed is awsome but where would you be without the shitter?

[HappyNinja]

the bed is awsome but where would you be without the shitter?

Squatting in the alley. Duh. :tongue:

[Lonely_Person]

time is so complicated...if you happened to have the ability to go back in time, time would know that you would go to another period in history, therefore all changes would happen...it's like if you have a crystal ball and you see that your car will be crushed the next day, you would do all you can to stop it from happening. this would all lead up to the same point-time knows that you would look into the crystal ball and see what would happen, so everything you did led up to the car event. like keeping it in a garage instead of driving on a dangerous road, some other car could have crashed into your garage.

i hate writing long, confusing paragraphs but that's my case;)

[King Goldfish]

now... i could argue that stopping slavery would be a bad thing.

think of it like this... if you kept slavery from happening, then black folks wouldn't have been pushed so hard for equal rights. basically they wouldnt have had as far to go to get the rights, so they wouldnt have tried so hard. i've heard somewhere a saying, something like "ya have to take a step back in order to move forward."

i'm not saying that i think slavery was a good thing, just that it can be seen as a good thing


There would be few blacks in the US and we'de all be listening to bumpkin music. There would be no rock and thankfully no MTV. Rock n Roll started from Black Folk Music from the south. It's actually a black term meaning "To have sex or roll in the hay"

[King Goldfish]

time is so complicated...if you happened to have the ability to go back in time, time would know that you would go to another period in history, therefore all changes would happen...it's like if you have a crystal ball and you see that your car will be crushed the next day, you would do all you can to stop it from happening. this would all lead up to the same point-time knows that you would look into the crystal ball and see what would happen, so everything you did led up to the car event. like keeping it in a garage instead of driving on a dangerous road, some other car could have crashed into your garage.

i hate writing long, confusing paragraphs but that's my case;)


Its like "Sliders" the TV show. You jump into a parallele universe. You leave this universe behind and can live the life you chose. Of course, you wreck another universe. I wonder if anyone has done that to ours :eek:

[Lonely_Person]

yeah that would make sense

[Daemon]

what if someone in the future already has time traveled and went far into the past and called himself jesus O.o

that would be some shit.

[shampoo]

I'd go back to one of those moments when you cant think of a comebcak, then you suddenly think of a really bitchin' one 6 hours later and say it right then.:cool:

[DuffO]

I'd go back in time and buy an assload of Microsoft stock.

[upuaut]

I dont' think this is a discussion on the possibilities of timetravel. If that were the case I'd argue that only forward travel is possible.

IF I had a time machine allowing forward and backwards travel, I'd go back and innoculate the native American population 200 years or so prior to the arrival of Europeans.

screw the temporal ramifications.

[upuaut]

I'd go back in time and buy an assload of Microsoft stock.

yeah prior to what I said above, I'd do that.. I'd need cash for all that medicine.

[King Goldfish]

yeah prior to what I said above, I'd do that.. I'd need cash for all that medicine.


No Small Pox, No White Man Domination. No White Man Domination and more then likely noones great grandparents hooked up which means you wouldnt be alive, Bill Gates wouldnt be alive and no Indian Casinos

Or Microsofts

[upuaut]

Hence why I buy Microsoft stock first. I couldn't do that if A) I didn't exist, or B) they didn't. But by then it would be too late. I'd already have the vaccines.

As for the outcome, that's not an issue with me sir. I'm happy with those ramifications... but for an instance.. my ancestors on one side came over to farm. The Quakers fought for indian rights. I have a feeling that they would get along fine with the Natives. On the other side, my grandparents came across escaping naziism. It's unlikely that I would be born.. but my family would be just fine.

[King Goldfish]

Hence why I buy Microsoft stock first. I couldn't do that if A) I didn't exist, or B) they didn't. But by then it would be too late. I'd already have the vaccines.

As for the outcome, that's not an issue with me sir. I'm happy with those ramifications... but for an instance.. my ancestors on one side came over to farm. The Quakers fought for indian rights. I have a feeling that they would get along fine with the Natives. On the other side, my grandparents came across escaping naziism. It's unlikely that I would be born.. but my family would be just fine.


A bit off topic, but what the hell did Bill Gates do? From watching "Pirates of Silicon Valley" all I learned was, He ripped off the orriginal coder who wrote DOS. he purchased it from the guy and made billions by getting IBM to give him a percentage of every sale. Now just about every company uses Windows as a default platform.

Why not just do everything that Bill Gates did and become Bill Gates?

[upuaut]

Well that would require work. Buying his stock and ridding on his coat tails would be much easier. I don't WANT to be a computer engineer. Though I find that idea about Bill to be misleading. He did do a LOT of work on the code and the marketing of windows. Marketing is something like 80% of the cost of a product.. so even if that's all he did, he still did something. Anyone who worked with line command DOS, and then worked with the later shell systems of DOS, knows that Bill did work on the system. The ideas might have belonged to the inventer of DOS, and the inventer of Apple DOS, but only bill considered bringing them together.
I think he produces a lousy product most years.. but I dont' think that he did nothing for his money.

[RanC]

I would go back in time, kill my grandpa and have sex with my grandma, therfore making myself my own grandfather.

/also stolen

Futurama, I presume?

I would only go back in time to witness some awesome battles that shaped history.

[echo65]

Like someone else kind of said, I'd think any change in history would be a bad thing such as freeing the slaves. Things like that change the attitudes and migration patterns of people all of the world. Change in migration patterns = different people getting together and having kids = us not being here. Instead we'd have SkippyUber, Gitsot, Cnar, and Queen Pihrana.

[King Goldfish]

Like someone else kind of said, I'd think any change in history would be a bad thing such as freeing the slaves. .


We did free the slaves.

Or are you suggesting we kept black as slaves? Thats kind of messed up thinking.

Although I will agree that alot of blacks use the race card to be thugs. It's their parents job to wipe that out of their minds and just live their lives as best as possible without playing the blame game on the whites.

[King Goldfish]

Well that would require work. Buying his stock and ridding on his coat tails would be much easier. I don't WANT to be a computer engineer. Though I find that idea about Bill to be misleading. He did do a LOT of work on the code and the marketing of windows. Marketing is something like 80% of the cost of a product.. so even if that's all he did, he still did something. Anyone who worked with line command DOS, and then worked with the later shell systems of DOS, knows that Bill did work on the system. The ideas might have belonged to the inventer of DOS, and the inventer of Apple DOS, but only bill considered bringing them together.
I think he produces a lousy product most years.. but I dont' think that he did nothing for his money.


I, didnt say he wasn't a marketing genius. I just said he shouldnt have taken all the credit for other peoples work.

My point was, if Bill Gate$ wasn't born, but you were, Then you would have nothing to invest in. So you, infact, would have to do his work and not ride hi coattail to success.

[BklynCannonball]

Lemme see if I can properly explain this...
My view of time is a continued, unbroken line.
If there was a time machine, and you DID go back in time and "kill your own grandfather", then he wasn't your grandfather to begin with. If you actually DID kill your grandfather, then you would never have existed, and since you DO exist we can safely say you never did kill your grandfather.

The same goes for something like warning yourself of some future catastrophe. If you were going to go back in time and warn yourself, then you would already remember that at some point in the past your future self showed up and warned you.



I'd go back in time and stop Omega from having made the post that killed my high.

[gerryfuss]

I'd go with playing numbers i already knew were correct and winnings millions in a lottery.

[Spikey]

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/6/5/f/65f4a1ec5a001a02396ac2d1baa8e31a. jpg

[King Goldfish]

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/6/5/f/65f4a1ec5a001a02396ac2d1baa8e31a. jpg


I have seen this before. Its pretty funny.

[random_ranter]

I would go back to 1300 and nuke everyone's fuckin ass. Solves all the future wars and the stupidity that is mankind too!

[Chad]

If I could go back in time, I would go back to when my dad was having sex with my mom, when I was being made.. and slap my dad in the ass " IM YOUR SON FROM THE FUTURE!! HAHAHAHAHAH"


-Dane Cook

[BamWam]

I would go back in time and meet Bruce Lee. He seemed like a cool dude.

[Chad]

Dude, yeah! Bruce lee was awesome!

[BOBBYRAY]

i own a time machine, it's called a watch. thats the worst joke. i'd go back and stop myself from saying it

[upuaut]

I, didnt say he wasn't a marketing genius. I just said he shouldnt have taken all the credit for other peoples work.

My point was, if Bill Gate$ wasn't born, but you were, Then you would have nothing to invest in. So you, infact, would have to do his work and not ride hi coattail to success.

HENCE, why you go back in time to make money FIRST.. then after that, change history. Done in order, I still exist, and so does Bill. Once I'm back in 1100 or so with the vaccine in hand, it doesn't matter what I change. Silly linear thinkers.. :)

[King Goldfish]

I would go back to 1300 and nuke everyone's fuckin ass. Solves all the future wars and the stupidity that is mankind too!

Only problem is this. Nuclear weapons are only effective on large populated areas. In 1300, Most people didnt live in cities like we do today. they lived scattered around the planet. so, all the nuclear bombs wouldnt be as effective as they would today.

And eventhough we may have a nuclear winter, Many people would still find a way to survive. You would solve nothing with that.

HENCE, why you go back in time to make money FIRST.. then after that, change history. Done in order, I still exist, and so does Bill. Once I'm back in 1100 or so with the vaccine in hand, it doesn't matter what I change. Silly linear thinkers.. :)

But again, if you vacinated the N/A's, Then you would have caused an effect in time that more N/As would have survived which means it would have been less likely for the Europeans to have taken control of tribal land. which means people would have been forced to make different choices in life and would not have met their future spouses which means very likely that many of the White Europeans of today would not have been born. You maybe Mexican or Native American for all I know or from India, But for myself and Bill Gate$, We may never have been born.

Or my soul would have taken over a Native American body, since my great grandma was cherokee. Perhaps I would have become full blooded injin!

[upuaut]

If paradox can exist, independent of time, then I certainly can go back and rape microsoft early, and then change time a second time by vacinating the Native Americans prior to European invasion. The causality of Bill Gates no longer existing, is irrelivant because I did my dealing before the paradox could take effect. Once I'm back in time with the Natives, I'm staying there, so the future is unwriten to me.

If paradox doesn't exist at all, then I was destined to go back and do exactly what I did. History would remain unchanged, for all my efforts. Since I've already said I'm staying, then I don't know that History was supposed to unfold like that, and I cannot say for sure what effect my journey has had other than to place me among the Native Population, more than one lifespan from colonialization. So I'm still safe.

If paradox cannot exist, then either
A) I go back, but cannot change anything. I guess that would be past viewing, rather than time travel, but it's a form none the less.

B) The universe disapears because I traveled in time at all, causing paradox and destroying everything. No one knows I failed.. not even me.

So as I see it, the only problem case I have is IF, paradox prevents me from altering anything in the past. If that happens then the machine is hardly a time travel machine.

If we place that restriction.. then I would only be able to view something. In that case I would probebly go back and make an accurate record of famous biblical figures for the purpose of discrediting the religions of today. Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Egyptian god kings, The Arians of India, etc.

[King Goldfish]

OK, Now I understand what you meant by *linear thinking*. Good point, but as I pointed out earlier, You destroy your universe when you change time but you don't destroy yourself. so yes, You are correct. :)

[freemasondrgn]

Jhon Titor (http://www.johntitor.com)

[vezza]

I'd go back and keep the nuclear bomb from happening by seeing that Hitler was excepted into Art School. Was that Vienna? Then on my way back I'd keep Kennedy from taking that route through Dealey Plaza and into the triangulation zone. Then I'd keep GW from being born. Before coming back to the present.

Oh, and all of you that talk about how it isn't possible for this reason or that, who cares? It's fun to play!

[#1dyslexic]

i'd go in time when gas was like 35 cents, get a whole shit load and bring it back and sell it cheap and keep doing this till i was rich.

[The_Observer]

I do own a time machine or as you all put it. a clock.

It's purpose isn't time travel in essence but to represent the current time.

I am willing to sell it so the starting bid is 200 blow jobs.

[Hypernova]

I'd go back to the mid-Roman Days and become their head Philosapher/genius guy, introduce advanced mathmatics and new siege weapons etc... so we can truly become am ancient world power. muahahaha. but really thatd be pretty cool

[sinner]

''We all have our time machines. Some take us back, they're called memories. Some take us forward, they're called dreams.''
- Jeremy Irons

[jdchas]

I can't believe no one has said that they would go back to the dawn of time to see if the creationists are right or the evolutionists. Of course, that would require some alterations to said time machine to endure the preasures of space travel, but what the hey!

[Repth]

simple. Lottery scam.

Just like the one in "Stroker and Hoop."

[Comedown]

I would put a $100 dollar bill on a table. Put it in my pocket. Go back in time five seconds. Put said $100 dollar bill in pocket again. Then go back in time and totally wtfpwn the stock market.

[King Goldfish]

I would put a $100 dollar bill on a table. Put it in my pocket. Go back in time five seconds. Put said $100 dollar bill in pocket again. Then go back in time and totally wtfpwn the stock market.


Hmm.. wouldnt it be the same 100?

so umm. Why not just pause time while a bank vault door is open. Walk in, fill bags full of greenbacks and walk out, click play and run like hell.


Oh wait, That was "click".

nm.

[RageAgainst]

If you go back and kill Hitler before WWII, your parents probably won't be born.

[King Goldfish]

If you go back and kill Hitler before WWII, your parents probably won't be born.


I don't think hitler ran things. I think hitler was a puppet. I think someone else was running the show. So, if you killed hitler, they would have found another patsy to string up.

[ooktar]

I'd go Back to the sixties and cure all teh Rock stars of their drug addictions so they wouldnt diewhen they were supposed to. then id go to Woodstock, then id come back here and see how long all the rock stars lived.

[Jack]

I don't think hitler ran things. I think hitler was a puppet. I think someone else was running the show. So, if you killed hitler, they would have found another patsy to string up.

That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. How did you come to this conclusion?

[Repth]

Obviously, he has no facts backing up his opinion.

[King Goldfish]

That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. How did you come to this conclusion?


You don't actually think Hitler formed the National Socialist party on his own, do you?

[Jack]

You don't actually think Hitler formed the National Socialist party on his own, do you?

Of course not. No one disputes that Hitler was the Commander in Chief of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945. But back to what you were saying, if you can focus.

[King Goldfish]

Of course not. No one disputes that Hitler was the Commander in Chief of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945. But back to what you were saying, if you can focus.

I have to do research. But my comment was based on a show I watched. Perhaps conspiracy in nature, but it showed that Hitler was nothing more then a puppet. Those that controlled Germany got away with the destruction of millions of lives while Hitler and his little crew ended up being dying or put in Prison for the rest of their lives.

Hitler, was a great man. I don't mean to support any of his ideals, but he was appealing to many people. He made great speeches, but I doubt he wrote them himself (as most leaders often have speech writers). But, he was very convincing to the desperate people of Germany.

He had nice hair too.. Thats always important :tongue:

[RageAgainst]

Fuck, the point was, if you killed someone very important 100 years ago, you probably wouldn't be born because your parents would not have fucked the exact same moment you were conceived.

[Faustian]

I got no fuckin clue... But I'll think about it :)

[King Goldfish]

Fuck, the point was, if you killed someone very important 100 years ago, you probably wouldn't be born because your parents would not have fucked the exact same moment you were conceived.

I understood the point. we can argue this all day. No War, No Cold War, No Missiles would have been invented or would have been delayed, no Missiles, No Rockets to the Moon, No Home Calculators, No Digital Displays on your watches, No Digital Technology period meaning no CD players, No Home Computers since NASA help advance computer technology in the 60s which lead to Micro Technology to be light enough and small enough to send into space which means no one in Berkeley or standford or colleges around the world would have been working on home computers yada yada.


So, Hitler in a round about way did us a favore?

[hoseq]

http://www.toolan.com/hitler/author.html


I believe that this article has alot of the information that king golfish was talking about and I have seen that same program he was talking about I think it was on the history channel. The only reason that I would follow any of this is because I believe that psych is not a science but is part of a religion that embodies sciology and psychology and some others .... Any how, to evade haveing hitler in power one would need to know how it all started.

This is where the facts are, Oddly enough Germany took ALL of the blame for the entire war when germany didnt evn start it or get involved for some time.

http://www.worldwar1.com/tlwarorg.htm#murder

[King Goldfish]

Thank you HoseQ for finding that. I have to look to see if its the same show, but I'm sure its the same theory behind it. I don't think it would take much research to find out where hitler was in his youth days. He clearly entered an art school. Find out the exact date, Show up in the time machine and slit his throat. or Just shoot him in the head a few times. Make sure your time machine is close enough to keep from being arrested. But, wouldnt someone else have taken his place. True, no one person would rule or make the same decissions, but Had someone smarter then hitler ran, and was able to not be completly controlled, then it's possible that both the nuclear research and rocket research would have went on longer and more money invested into it. Making NAZI Germany the first and only country to have atomic bombs capable of being carried on rockets. another 10 or 20 years after winning the war, they might have completly destroyed North America for getting involved.


http://www.toolan.com/hitler/author.html


I believe that this article has alot of the information that king golfish was talking about and I have seen that same program he was talking about I think it was on the history channel. The only reason that I would follow any of this is because I believe that psych is not a science but is part of a religion that embodies sciology and psychology and some others .... Any how, to evade haveing hitler in power one would need to know how it all started.

This is where the facts are, Oddly enough Germany took ALL of the blame for the entire war when germany didnt evn start it or get involved for some time.

http://www.worldwar1.com/tlwarorg.htm#murder

[hoseq]

Your welcome.

World history and American history along with politics, both local and abroad have been my main inerests since I can remember. It can be very boring but when you put things together and into perspective it isnt very hard to guess where they {powerful special interest groups} are trying to take it.

Sad really. We live on such a cool planet and heres some small evilminded soul/s just hell bent to fuck your life so he/they can have a little power.

Politicians need to be stopped dead in their tracks when they pull bullshit like this ID card thing, reguardless where they are. Includes royalty.

[Tostig]

The only reason that I would follow any of this is because I believe that psych is not a science but is part of a religion that embodies sciology and psychology and some others ....
Yeah, i'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there, mmkay?

Psychology and sociology are sciences. Human behavior is both observable, measurable, and for the most part, predictable. How does that equate to a religion?

[ryuu]

Well, if I had a time machine, I would go back to the Garden of Eden to stand in front of the Tree of Knowledge and kill that damn snake...then we would all be content with no conflict and we would have no need for a time machine...but then I wouldn't be able to go back in time, but then the snake would've tricked them and we'd have a time machine, but then I'd go back in time with a shotgun...I'm confused O.o

[Sarikunai]

go back in time and save my dad from dieing :thumbsup:

I'd probley do the same. But I think what I'd do if i had a time machine is go back in time and spend more time with my grandma before she died.

[King Goldfish]

You know.. it becomes more and more clear that debunking is taking place.

How foolish I am. and yet, I've been a member of these forums for years. It's not just one, Its every single one. I guess it could be something as simple as me googling things of interest and it being on the first page.

never post a photo of your face. Everyone and Momma in your town will come across it. The truth is, 99.999 percent of the world are timid about communicating on web forums, so they just browse.

of the topic a bit, It amazes me how many people are actually posting Blogs and Videos on youtube of them acting retarded. I mean, its ok to make videos like that, but make sure the only people who sees them are your very very close friends. but there is always that one cat who likes to save it and spread it around. thats when you know who your own personal Judas is.

[King Goldfish]

Are you so set in your mind that such things aren't possible? Why? Because it allows intelligent people to not get caught for their actions. They find some person like Hitler who would in no doubt be diagnosed as being insane by todays standards and let him pretend he is in charge.

How did I come to this conclussion?? I watch alot of films, documentations over the year. Do I believe it? I dont know, Maybe a little bit. Im just throwing ideas out there. This is a "What if" scenerio. An "Alternative Reality". right? But then again, I do believe it probably happened that way. You, on the other hand are so 1 tracked in your beliefs, that you have to ask yourself who is being the idiot here.

That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. How did you come to this conclusion?

[hoseq]

Yeah, i'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there, mmkay?

Psychology and sociology are sciences. Human behavior is both observable, measurable, and for the most part, predictable. How does that equate to a religion?


To answer, yes all human actions are observable but in those professions the practitioners try to evoke a change in the persons behavior through direct or indirect intervention. It is becoming more and more obvious that it is necessary to first address the elan vital/spirit/soul [you] before there can be any real changes in the mind. If one must address the spirit then one is gettting into the realm of religion/spirituality/theology and it no longer is "science". For those things to stay in the field of science they would need to fall into one of 2 sections, I believe. First, always asking questions as any scientist always does. Second would be a provable type of engineering, for it is engineering that classically has the answers to those questions and for it to stay in the field of science and not be moved into religion the practitioners would then have to be ableminded enough to differentiate between the brain and the mind. Currently they cannot.

[chrisw442]

i would go back to 1919 and help form the leauge of nations that would have prevented ww2