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Spikey
02-24-2006, 04:28 PM
I've been thinking about this for a while now. When you die, do you actually go to another place? Do you just fall into nothingness? Think about it, when you die, your brain dosen't work, it's sleeping forever, sort of.
Scientifically, that is correct. Religiously, it is not.
What's your opinion?

zoloftcasserole
02-24-2006, 04:32 PM
Life --> Death --> worm food. That is all.

Spikey
02-24-2006, 04:35 PM
Disgusting and disturbing.

TheLampIncident
02-24-2006, 04:54 PM
You think you're the only person on the face of the planet to ever think about where people go after they die? This thread is just another excuse for people to cough up what their religious faith is. Who fucking cares?

Darklight
02-24-2006, 04:59 PM
Ive thought on this long and hard because I'm rather fearful of death...

what gets me by is that the human mind is electrical. Electrical impulses drive our muscles and nerves and even our very thoughts... like a big ol squishy computer... energy cannot be created nor destroyed, and it tends to stay in the same pattern as it was last put into... so I feel that that electricity that makes us up, although stops being produced.. still exists.. with the pattern of our mind in it.. weather we exist as a concious mind or not I do not know but perhaps we do. as an energy spirit or even perhaps the energy finds its way to a new conception and is reborn to a new baby.. a kind of reincarnation theory...

ghim
02-24-2006, 05:01 PM
Ive thought on this long and hard because I'm rather fearful of death...

what gets me by is that the human mind is electrical. Electrical impulses drive our muscles and nerves and even our very thoughts... like a big ol squishy computer... energy cannot be created nor destroyed, and it tends to stay in the same pattern as it was last put into... so I feel that that electricity that makes us up, although stops being produced.. still exists.. with the pattern of our mind in it.. weather we exist as a concious mind or not I do not know but perhaps we do. as an energy spirit or even perhaps the energy finds its way to a new conception and is reborn to a new baby.. a kind of reincarnation theory...
I was actually going to say this. That's how I get through the day and my own internal debate about death. I am not afraid of it, no reason to be afraid of something you can't change. I am, however, sad that I won't live forever. But the energy that comprimises what I am won't really go away, so it makes it easier to bear.

Spikey
02-24-2006, 06:28 PM
I was actually going to say this. That's how I get through the day and my own internal debate about death. I am not afraid of it, no reason to be afraid of something you can't change. I am, however, sad that I won't live forever. But the energy that comprimises what I am won't really go away, so it makes it easier to bear.How the hell does that get you through your day? Woudn't it give you another reason to kill yourself?

Repth
02-24-2006, 06:32 PM
:confused: you think about death everyday and than have to calm yourself to help you get through the day :confused:

Spikey
02-24-2006, 06:36 PM
:confused: you think about death everyday and than have to calm yourself to help you get through the day :confused:
I don't think about it everyday, let alone every month.

TheLampIncident
02-24-2006, 06:46 PM
Why do people spend so much time bothering with death at all?

Who cares what happens when you die?
Who even cares WHEN you die?

It doesn't matter if you die tomorrow or 50 years from now. You'll have plenty of time to figure out the mysteries of death when you're fucking DEAD.

Focus on LIVING!

FuckedOver
02-24-2006, 09:50 PM
when people go in for major brain surgery they are put into a medically induced coma where all measureable brain activity ceases. This is what we call being clinically dead!
Several people have gone in for this type of surgery to remove a brain tuma or something and after the surgery they have told the nurses/doctor that they saw the surgery taking place from above. As we are not yet ready to accept the possibility of astral projection being possible a new theory has been recently formed as to what the human conciousness actually is.
when we look at the basic building blocks of the universe every thing in existance is made of the exact same building blocks. The latest scientific theory is that what ever makes up the human conciousness is actually even smaller than that.
The proposed theory is that these "particles" (for lack of a better word) leave the body when clinical death occurs. In the cases of patients claiming to have watched their own surgery from above, it is believed that these particles that make up the human conciousnes have left the body but stayed together instead of dispersing.
In almost all these cases the patients have claimed that they watched the surgery for a while befor being pulled up towards a bright light where they found friends and family that had died befor telling them that it was not yet time for them to leave "this world" so they went back into their bodies and lived out the rest of their lives!

This newly formed scientific belief gives a scientific basis for the existance of some form of what we call "Heven"
It also gives a scientific basis to the possibility of actual reincarnation.

This is all documented somewhere although as i have not had the expirience myself I can not confirm it. But it is a comforting thought that "existance" goes on after death.

beefjavelin
02-25-2006, 08:19 AM
wow. thats pretty amazing.
and about the electrical stuff, when you die your brain still has slight electrical impulses. which i think is why your hair and fingernails continue to grow
or was what i said just bullshit from resident evil?
either way FuckedOver just blew me away with that :thumbsup:

Spikey
02-25-2006, 10:24 AM
when people go in for major brain surgery they are put into a medically induced coma where all measureable brain activity ceases. This is what we call being clinically dead!
Several people have gone in for this type of surgery to remove a brain tuma or something and after the surgery they have told the nurses/doctor that they saw the surgery taking place from above. As we are not yet ready to accept the possibility of astral projection being possible a new theory has been recently formed as to what the human conciousness actually is.
when we look at the basic building blocks of the universe every thing in existance is made of the exact same building blocks. The latest scientific theory is that what ever makes up the human conciousness is actually even smaller than that.
The proposed theory is that these "particles" (for lack of a better word) leave the body when clinical death occurs. In the cases of patients claiming to have watched their own surgery from above, it is believed that these particles that make up the human conciousnes have left the body but stayed together instead of dispersing.
In almost all these cases the patients have claimed that they watched the surgery for a while befor being pulled up towards a bright light where they found friends and family that had died befor telling them that it was not yet time for them to leave "this world" so they went back into their bodies and lived out the rest of their lives!

This newly formed scientific belief gives a scientific basis for the existance of some form of what we call "Heven"
It also gives a scientific basis to the possibility of actual reincarnation.

This is all documented somewhere although as i have not had the expirience myself I can not confirm it. But it is a comforting thought that "existance" goes on after death.
Slowed brain function isn't clinically dead. No brain function and no brain waves is.
Yeah, they had a show on seeing their accident and surgery from a different angle. A "Near Death Experience". People have different accounts on this, some claim to get sucked into hell, some get flown into a "black whole", some see their dead loved ones, and some see their surgery. I agree with this theory.

Jude09
02-25-2006, 02:09 PM
I think Death is an appropriate topic to wonder about. Not all the time of course because that would be unhealthy and I think not to care about it all is sometimes a person's biggest pretend.

To think beyond life some people think is pointless but maybe they are just scared.

Back to the original point of the thread though, it really doesn't matter what everyone else believes because there isn't any proof. They can say Prove to me that there is something beyond death but someone else can also say Prove to me there isn't something beyond death.

I believe that you're instantly reincarnated after death. I think that whatever you learn in your lifetime is taken into record when you die and depending on what lesson you were to learn whether you did good or bad or neautral things, you are sorted into a new person.

If you don't learn your "life lesson", which has to be more than being happy and good and all that crap, then you are reborn as a new person to go through all the same things until you learn the point of it.

beefjavelin
02-25-2006, 03:42 PM
Good theory. I'm sure their's a relgion/civilisation (e.g ancient egyptions) that beleives something along those lines. You live and if you don't achieve what you were supposed to you are born again and this will continue until you achieve it. Only then are you allowed to live in eternal paradise.
Sounds nice :)

dustinzgirl
02-25-2006, 03:57 PM
Ahem...

When you die, your soul is transported across the river of the dead by Charon, so be sure you carry a coin with you. Then your spirit will be one with Ra and Osirus, to await rebirth amongst humanity.

FuckedOver
02-25-2006, 05:48 PM
no no no
when u die, u either end up bored shitless sitting on a cloud with a harp and no one to teach you how to play, or u end up in hell, with a horny red indian sticking red hot pokers up ur arse for the rest of eternity.

JLXC
02-25-2006, 06:29 PM
I believe death is individual. I think whatever you truly believe deep inside is what will really happen to you. Some just dissapate, some reincarnate back into hell, some go to heaven, some reincarnate into other places in the omni-verse, all in all death is a very personal thing.

Spikey
02-25-2006, 06:35 PM
Ahem...

When you die, your soul is transported across the river of the dead by Charon, so be sure you carry a coin with you. Then your spirit will be one with Ra and Osirus, to await rebirth amongst humanity.
God, only if I lived in EGYPT!

FuckedOver
02-25-2006, 06:47 PM
but if you lived in egypt you would need to be embalmed to gain any real bennefit from death

dustinzgirl
02-25-2006, 07:40 PM
Or you could just go be on Phantasm with that creepy old guy and those cool as hell spinny balls...then your death would not matter so much....:D

BamWam
02-25-2006, 09:30 PM
I believe death is individual. I think whatever you truly believe deep inside is what will really happen to you. Some just dissapate, some reincarnate back into hell, some go to heaven, some reincarnate into other places in the omni-verse, all in all death is a very personal thing.
That would be almost perfect if that was what happened and if everyone thought that or believed that the world would be much more peaceful. However, even though that would be great if it was true, I don't think it is because I just think there is just a heaven and hell. Thats it. Its just my opinion.

FlipTheState
02-25-2006, 09:39 PM
For those of you who can read above an 8th grade level, don't get stumped trying to figure out how many sides a pentagon has, and maybe has a clue about what a nested function might be... go try this book:

The Society of Mind

Written by Marvin Minsky (one of the co-founders of MIT's Artificial Intelligence program) way back in 1988... it doesn't deal exactly with what happens to you after you die..but it does present a very plausible explanation about how the mind works... and then you can come to your own conclusions.

JLXC
02-25-2006, 10:36 PM
That would be almost perfect if that was what happened and if everyone thought that or believed that the world would be much more peaceful. However, even though that would be great if it was true, I don't think it is because I just think there is just a heaven and hell. Thats it. Its just my opinion.

Hehe that doesn't affect what I said though. Heaven, hell, it's all perspective. If you really believe in those things, when you die, you'll judge yourself based on them and assign yourself accordingly. Many bad people will find out they did believe in something afterall and in this life they fucking blew it, and then send themselves back to hell, which is just reincarnation here.