Wee Demon

[mthrlangl]

Why in the name of all that is holy does my child take malicious joy in doing the exact opposite of what I tell him to do? I can understand why he continues to pick his nose, but stuff like running toward the street? I literally had to get one of those kiddie leashes for him. I tried yelling. I tried time out. I tried taking away stuff he likes (like watching movies). I tried giving him a whap on the butt. Nothing. Then he looks at me and cackles and does whatever I just firmly told him not to do. I swear, he's going to get himself killed before he turns five. :mad:

[Smiss]

Lock him up in a cage!

[anti-movielife]

have you tried electro shock therapy?...or maybe a whip?...i've heard pepper spray works too...

[Koehiir]

What I want someone to explain to me is, how can theses monsters wake you up several times in the night, then once that damn alarm clock goes off, and you have to drag your sorry ass out of bed, stumble into the bathroom -- HOW CAN THEY BE WIDE AWAKE DOING A FUCKING JIG IN YOUR BATHROOM WITH A BIG GOD DAMN SMILE???

[mthrlangl]

Luckily, I rarely get rudely awakened before about 7am. But I know the feeling. I personally don't understand why being tired makes him (literally) run around in circles.

[WaterB]

one word "nyquil"

[lobo]

nyquil contains alcohol ... kids shouldn't drink it.

[WaterB]

nyquil contains alcohol ... kids shouldn't drink it.


yes but if they do.. they're all sleepy and quiet..

i say give it to them

[BRiT]

And I bet another part of your advice for dealing with a noisy child is to "shake em til they're silent".

[Smiss]

I don't think it's right when parents give their kid nyquil or benadril just to get them to calm down. Actually Chrix got into a big fight with his ex about this (she does it, he got pissed)...

[punkin]

I have occasionally given my wee ones Kiddie Tylenol when they are just a MESS before bed. It helps them sleep but since there is no sleep agent, they must of needed it! I don't think you should do it very often but some nights you have to sleep before you decide to sell them on Ebay!

[Koehiir]

I have occasionally given my wee ones Kiddie Tylenol when they are just a MESS before bed. It helps them sleep but since there is no sleep agent, they must of needed it! I don't think you should do it very often but some nights you have to sleep before you decide to sell them on Ebay!


WRONG WRONG WRONG, follow instructions on aspirin bottle "take two tablets and keep away from children."

[mthrlangl]

I don't generally have problems after I put him to bed. (Granted, sometimes he cries for a while, but we've come to realize that's just a ploy to make one of us come get him.) It's when he's awake that I have issues. He's been a bit better lately, but he still colored on the floor this morning after I told him not to, then wouldn't pick up his crayons, so he got them taken away. ::shrug:: It seems to be working a bit better; the more stuff I take away for a while, the less he seems to disobey.

[Smiss]

WRONG WRONG WRONG, follow instructions on aspirin bottle "take two tablets and keep away from children."


That's ASPRIN. :tongue:

[punkin]

That's ASPRIN. :tongue:
No, really! It is aspirin. Look it up!
Little ones can be a challenge but i try to tell myself enjoy their youth cuz
soon they will hate you. Teenage hood comes fast.!

[Smiss]

No, really! It is aspirin. Look it up!
Little ones can be a challenge but i try to tell myself enjoy their youth cuz
soon they will hate you. Teenage hood comes fast.!

NONO! Ok, I spelled it wrong. That's not the point I was trying to make. It's that he was talking about "Kiddie Tylenol," and that is NOT aspirin.

[son_star]

PMSL at WEE DEMON!!! What a great topic name!!! :mfinger:

[Smiss]

pmsl? that's one I havent heard before.

[gumercules]

= peed myself laughing, i presume

[Crocto]

Why in the name of all that is holy does my child take malicious joy in doing the exact opposite of what I tell him to do?


i believe bill cosby once said "because they [kids] have brain damage"

[gumercules]

i have that mp3!! lemme listen to it

"..because all children have brain damage."

"didn't i just tell you not to do that? / uh huh... / well then why did you do it? / i don't know... / that's brain damage!"

"my parents never smiled, because i had brain damage! oh my parents smile now, when they come over to my house and see how much trouble i'm having, oh they have a ball!"

bill cosby is great, i'm gonna see him in april

[mthrlangl]

He puked while he was eating dinner tonight. Lemme tell you, mac'n'cheese and orange juice and milke make for NASTY ASS vomit.

[Koehiir]

bill cosby is great

Cosby rules, I didn't know how true until I got some monsters of my own.

[punkin]

Sorry, about the spelling. I didn't get the point. You are right. not the same thing! Kids definitely cause brain damage. Luckily by the end of pregnancy, I didn't have much left so no one noticed! :confused:

[Crocto]

you make parenthood seem so positive. i also think what dennis leary said about parenting appiles, "its like having a bunch of druken midgets running around the house".

[mthrlangl]

you make parenthood seem so positive.

Oh, it is. But don't forget, you're on a bitching forum ;)

[Chica]

I don't think it's right when parents give their kid nyquil or benadril just to get them to calm down. Actually Chrix got into a big fight with his ex about this (she does it, he got pissed)...
So we are agreed that Nyquil and Benadryl are bad ideas. But what about marijuana? I know that's what my mom used to give to me when I was little and wouldn't calm down. And just look at me now! Ha. :gun:

[Skorch]

It seems to me what you have is a lack of your child's respect. Simply giving them cushy new-age soft-as-shit pussy parenting punishments is simply not going to cut it in a world where drugs, guns, and hookers are available at any local public school. Two words that will solve all your child problems: Back hand. My dad had a mean backhand that made it almost seem like an art where he would crank it way back and let it fly hard and fast. You need to get the right snap in the wrist so that the knuckles leave a nice initial shock and the whip action on the fingers leaves a lasting sting for them to remember it. It gives them something to think about while they re-evaluate their behavior patterns in public. He also had a nice sharp front swing that he could use as a combo attack if the first slap didn't level me enough. Keep to it for a few months or years and soon you will have your child's respect in no time, and they will be so conditioned to it that they will learn to fear the moment you raise that hand and put that glint in your eye that just screams "shut the fuck up you noisy mistake." I tell you, nothing will get your kids' attention faster than a healthy cultivated fear of the backhand. Bill Cosby knew it, my parents knew it, and my kids are damn sure going to know it. Who cares if your kids start to hate you? They'll hate you anyway once they become teenagers, but at least they'll respect you. And in the end, if you show that you really care about them enough to hit them they'll learn to love you too for every beating you lay on their disobedient ass.

[mthrlangl]

Dude, fuck that. First of all, I consider that abuse. Secondly, my son is not-quite-three. I'm sure as shit not going to backhand him. I don't have a problem smacking his ass when he does something wrong, but that's seriously fucked up. I hope you never have kids.

[Skorch]

Look, obviously I'm not saying beat your kids at age three. But as soon as they get old enough to be giving you attitude they're old enough to learn their lesson. It may seem cruel to someone who was never raised on the tough love principle, but if you aren't willing to keep your kids in line then you're doing them more harm than good. If you can keep a child straight by just telling them to be quiet then that's fine, but if telling them don't play in traffic makes them charge headlong into a mac truck then it's time to get out the disciplining rod and stop spoiling the child. This is one of those you have to see it work to believe it things; everyone who's been raised or seen kids raised this way will tell you "yeah dat's true" and everyone who probably grew up in America after the 1970's will probably tell you "I disagree". I ain't saying don't love your child and abuse them just for fun, but if they don't start learning early that their actions will have real world consequences then they'll learn it much later when the consequences do a bit more than just sting for a few minutes.

[mthrlangl]

I think that if you can't get your child under control any other way than to backhand them, you're the one with the problem, not the kid. I've had random people come up to me to tell me how well-behaved Jason is; he didn't get that good behavior from being scared of his mommy.

[Skorch]

Correct me if I'm mistaken but weren't you the one who said you couldn't keep your kid under control? Don't mistake me when I say this but there is a fine line between discipline and abuse, and most people I've seen nowadays can't seem to tell the difference and just call it all abuse. But you say you smack your kid on the ass, what's the difference? Is there something magically more moral about the way you slap a child if it happens to be on the ass instead of on the cheak? You don't have to take the kid to boxing school every time you discipline him, but if you're going to use pain as a negative enforcer then I suggest you subscribe to Skorch's pimpslaps and backhands school of raising children. But all seriousness aside, lighten up and get a sense of humor. If you didn't want unprofessional advice on raising children from random complete strangers off the internet then you shouldn't have asked for it from a site titled WTF.com. For future reference most if not all my posts will be with an almost complete absence of seriousness and no offence is intended (except when it might be)

[mthrlangl]

For one thing, he's still in diapers. A smack on his ass and a backhand to the face are two drasticaly different things. I never said I couldn't keep him under control; I said he disobeys me. He doesn't go screaming around the house or jump from piece of furniture to piece of furniture; he does things he's not supposed to. There's a difference, but maybe since you don't have kids, you don't see it. Additionally, hurting kids isn't something I find humorous in the least. Finally, I'm very well aware of who I'm talking to, some of whom are also parents. The majority of the people on this site are people I've been in contact with for over two years - people who sent me presents on the birth of said child. I trust them as much as I trust my "real life" friends.

[Skorch]

Aight, you've clearly taken this way too seriously so the last thing I'ma say on this whole issue is that while I don't really care, I can see that you are offended and therefore I am not going to bother continuing this clearly futile discussion, the only possible result of it being you getting more offended. So in the interest of preventing a childish back and forth flame war I will say that I misunderstood your initial post and you will have to pardon my initial ignorance of your situation.

[Smiss]

Oops, I started a post that ended up being "childish flame war..." of course... sometimes that is fun.

But as far as the too seriously, how do you think someone is going to react to something like that?

[gumercules]

i'm fairly certain skorch didn't intend for us to take a fully literal interpretation... trying to communicate a point in an amusing vehicle, which slipped by unnoticed

[punkin]

Picture it like this:
Parent: "Quit putting your fingers in your mouth!" to wee one at zoo. Child only hears "fingers in mouth!" And puts them back in the mouth. Mom hits kid. Hitting is not the answer! Just get out a fucking wipey and solve the probelm, you power hungry bitch!

[Broken]

Why in the name of all that is holy does my child take malicious joy in doing the exact opposite of what I tell him to do? I can understand why he continues to pick his nose, but stuff like running toward the street? I literally had to get one of those kiddie leashes for him. I tried yelling. I tried time out. I tried taking away stuff he likes (like watching movies). I tried giving him a whap on the butt. Nothing. Then he looks at me and cackles and does whatever I just firmly told him not to do. I swear, he's going to get himself killed before he turns five. :mad:

I have three... Whee.. Wait until they are 12.

[punkin]

I've heard that those years can be toughest and they need just as much attention as the diaper years!

[Smiss]

Isn't it all just a pain in the ass til they move out? And even then they come around asking for money, or come over to do laundry so they don't have to pay to do it at the laundromat... I would NEVER do something like that. Nope. Nuhuh. Not me! :D

[mthrlangl]

I have three... Whee.. Wait until they are 12.

:: snort ::

I think that's when my mom got the most pissed at me. She "didn't like who I was becoming" in public school, so she and my father decided to put me in a Christian school. Two years later, I could've been their fucking poster child.

Who says brainwashing doesn't work?

[Broken]

:: snort ::

I think that's when my mom got the most pissed at me. She "didn't like who I was becoming" in public school, so she and my father decided to put me in a Christian school. Two years later, I could've been their fucking poster child.

Who says brainwashing doesn't work?

yeah the Christians have taught us how to be real humanitarians. Ahhh, when I think back to the crusades, wow that's the way to teach people about god, compassion, being a valued product of society. Kill 'em.. Hell works for me.. Well just be thankful that JeBus came along, or we wouldn't have had an excuse to kill all the Indians and take over the America's. GOD is Good.

Just something to think about next Thanksgiving....Muhahha

[Smiss]

Next Thanksgiving I will be thinking of Turkey and Sweet Potatos. :P

[Broken]

Next Thanksgiving I will be thinking of Turkey and Sweet Potatos. :P


Sweet Potatoes.... YummmmmmY..

[lojasmo]

I have only spanked my child twice. Once when he was heading for the street, and once when he tried to put a penny in an electrical outlet. He's never done either one again....I spanked HARD.

Now when my boy misbehaves, I usually only have to give him a nasty look, and he'll straighten right out.

We took to doing the "malcom in the middle punnishment" Have him stand with his nose against a wall...He HATES that. Rare that we have to do it anymore.

Basically you (and your spouse, if there is one) need to find something that he HATES to do, or HATES to not have the privelege of...and either force him/withold it from him....and be CONSISTENT and DO NOT back down...otherwise you'll be pegged as a pushover and he'll continue to do whatever the f he wants.

[mthrlangl]

Basically you (and your spouse, if there is one) need to find something that he HATES to do, or HATES to not have the privelege of...and either force him/withold it from him....and be CONSISTENT and DO NOT back down...otherwise you'll be pegged as a pushover and he'll continue to do whatever the f he wants.

We don't back down. If something gets taken away for a set period of time, he doesn't get it til that time is over. So being a pushover isn't a problem here.

For the most part, all I have to do is start counting to three. He knows that if I get to three, I take movies away for the day. It generally works, but every once in a while, I have to keep taking things away til he gets the point.

:: shrug ::

[tidyguntyfer]

undefinedundefinedundefinedWhy in the name of all that is holy does my child take malicious joy in doing the exact opposite of what I tell him to do? I can understand why he continues to pick his nose, but stuff like running toward the street? I literally had to get one of those kiddie leashes for him. I tried yelling. I tried time out. I tried taking away stuff he likes (like watching movies). I tried giving him a whap on the butt. Nothing. Then he looks at me and cackles and does whatever I just firmly told him not to do. I swear, he's going to get himself killed before he turns five. :mad: your kid is only wanting the attention you are giving him. Youths are unable to tell the difference between the negative and the positive attention, and simply want it either way. Damn them for it, :D but there is nothing we can do about it,( :gun: ) except for not do anything to give them the attention they crave. Dont let him run into the street, obviously, but let him eat a crayon or two, and let him get sick of some mud and stuff, and only give him the lavish attention when he does the good deeds. He'll soon only do the positive actions, because he'll realize he isn't getting the other attention anymore. Not to mention, after a few mudpies, he'll straighten up after that tummy ache, when mommy soothes it. Thank God for the grace of wisdom. :thumbsup:

[Broken]

I have only spanked my child twice. Once when he was heading for the street, and once when he tried to put a penny in an electrical outlet. He's never done either one again....I spanked HARD.

Now when my boy misbehaves, I usually only have to give him a nasty look, and he'll straighten right out.

We took to doing the "malcom in the middle punnishment" Have him stand with his nose against a wall...He HATES that. Rare that we have to do it anymore.

Basically you (and your spouse, if there is one) need to find something that he HATES to do, or HATES to not have the privelege of...and either force him/withold it from him....and be CONSISTENT and DO NOT back down...otherwise you'll be pegged as a pushover and he'll continue to do whatever the f he wants.


Nice.. I have twin 11 yr old boys and a 4 yr old daughter. I haven't ever had to spank any of them. The Boys are A honor roll students, sometimes A/B. Play pop- warner football this will be thier 4th season. Smart kids They know right from wrong even at the 3-4 years of age easy, but they are going to push just to see how far you will let them get away with it.

All we have to do is say hey keep it up and NO what ever we have planned for the weekend. Seems to work well for us. At worst they have to go into thier room for ten minutes.

Don't teach them hate, violence. The crap we get on here and say is just bullshit, but for the most part we know that. They don't understand when you hit them that you aren't doing anything but taking advantge of your position and size.

That's my two cents, worth about as much as two pesos to a china man.
I am certainly not trying to tell you how to raise you kids, but it really is about attention, and just being there for them.

Good luck!!

[punkin]

I havn't spanked my kids either! I hated it when my parents did it! It just made me scared of their anger and we are not close now because they lost my respect. If you ever watch a parent hitting their child in public, all you see is the parents lack of emotional controll! My kids know when they are in trouble boundaries are not a probelm!

[lojasmo]

Nice.. I have twin 11 yr old boys and a 4 yr old daughter. I haven't ever had to spank any of them.
Don't teach them hate, violence. The crap we get on here and say is just bullshit, but for the most part we know that. They don't understand when you hit them that you aren't doing anything but taking advantge of your position and size.

That's my two cents, worth about as much as two pesos to a china man.
I am certainly not trying to tell you how to raise you kids, but it really is about attention, and just being there for them.

Good luck!!

Agreed, for sure. Spanking is not the answer. I guess I shouldn't have said spanked. I swatted him on the ass once each time. I'd be willing to bet he doesn't remember either time.

Basically I did it as a reflex out of fear. Strange thing, because I don't believe in spanking. My mom used a wooden spoon or a belt liberally :mad:

For me, now, it's about putting him in a position he really doesn't like to be in (his nose against a wall) He ususally spends only 1-2 minutes there. Taking away TV etc. doesn't work, because he's just as happy playing his guitar or coloring. All his musical instruments are in his room, so that doesn't work either. Ugh. Stubborn little buggers....so hard to torment.