Ouijja- sp? sorry its long but interesting story

[MsPunK]

hi, i was wondering if anyone on here can help me prove that ouijja (sp) is real?
these are my experiences- also, no bullshit plz i want to hear from people that can honestly say theyve had a weird experience

when my mother was 16 she was in a caravan and they had a board, one of her mates sed "if theres anyone there give us a sign" taking the piss basically and the lights exploded!!!


i have always believed in that stuff but was unsure as to whether it was spiritual or something to do with our thought and another dimension of telepathy.
i started doin em when i was about 15, for a joke at first, but the first real experience happened at school in a room full of curious people that had heard we were dabbling in this stuff. The first "person" i got in "contact" with was some guy, namely john. the odd thing was, i dunno if you have these in america, but our school windows had metal cage like things over the top to stop footballs goin thru etc, and they make a big noise when hit. the metal bars were hit very hard and a huge boom entered the room, but the window led out to a back alley where no one was!!!

at this point, as i was sitting close to the window me and my mate katie bolted out of ours seats!!! i jumped over the table and did all i cud to stop myself running out, it was freaky as hell!!

the next time i did it was with sumbody called Lu.she wasnt there when we had the earlier experience. we got in contact with this john guy again who told us hed been in a motorcycle accident. i am getting goose bump-ios now :rolleyes:

theeen later on in the week, we decided to go up to some woods by our school football grounds n do it again, we were quite obsessed by this lol , n the same guy came through but he didnt say it was john. we were in contact with many other people but we all agreed we could feel when it was this particular person. he started to spell out a registration number. at this point, my friend katie, who wasnt touching the board gasped in horror.

it was her old car reg number. the old citreon that had been involved in a motor cycle accident she blamed herself for. basically they had bin driving along and she gave her mum the wrong directions, they ended up going down a street where a motorist banged into the car on a bike, and died at the scene. her mum, being a nurse tried to resusitate but couldnt. katie obv blamed herself for this. she was real screwed bout it for ages. we were all very scared by this as we could feel panic ensuing, we cudnt believe our eyes, so we asked it questions like what was the road called, what was the car colour, etc. and it was right everytime.

we had a scribe to write down al of the letters and looking back at it we noticed something else. a jumble (or so we thought) of letters actually spelt "IAMTHEDEVIL" together. sounds lame huh? well it happened. at this point the board was spelling out things like "i hate you" and "your fault" , so obv, we stopped doing it.

this is one of the many very weird experiences i have had with ouijja.

anyone out there got any weird ones???

[gurlgonewild]

hi, i was wondering if anyone on here can help me prove that ouijja (sp) is real??? ugh wtf are you talking about? sorry, i read your entire post but couldn't figure out wtf you meant. i think the spelling is so off it requires further definition.

[junglizm]

hi, i was wondering if anyone on here can help me prove that ouijja (sp) is real?
I'll save you the trouble; it's a fucking game. It's make by a fucking game company. It works because people want it to, no other reason. It's a novelty, until people create little fantasies about it being real.
ugh wtf are you talking about? sorry, i read your entire post but couldn't figure out wtf you meant. i think the spelling is so off it requires further definition.
Exactly.

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Yeah its bollocks. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Don't you think if dead people could contact the living they would be scaring the shit out of people all day? Or chilling with their loved ones? I fucking would. Not hanging around waiting for some halfwit school girls to get out their ouija boards so I can make them cry. Come on.

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[Captain 151]

But dude!! What about John Edwards??

heh.

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John who?

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[Captain 151]

eh... hes a guy who can "talk to the dead" just by getting brain waves from you or something... Its a load of bullshit.. i was being a sarcastic idiot. :)

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I thought you were talking about John the motorcycle accident victim.

I'm just being an idiot.

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[MsPunK]

ha yeh john edwards is an idiot . that shit all did happen. so it aint a "fantasy" , im 18 i know what happened. i was wondering if anyone else had had a similar experience thats all.

[junglizm]

that shit all did happen. so it aint a "fantasy" , im 18 i know what happened. i was wondering if anyone else had had a similar experience thats all.
There are medications for that. There's also a psychological phenomena, although I forget what it's called. You always hear the most eccentric people claim that shit. It's just a game; a placebo. Your subconscious is a powerful thing.

[Sektor]

I seriously doubt those things are real, come on now.

[BrIONwoshMunky]

ha yeh john edwards is an idiot . that shit all did happen. so it aint a "fantasy" , im 18 i know what happened. i was wondering if anyone else had had a similar experience thats all.

I... I.... I am looking into your mind as I type. I see.... I see I see.... cobwebs and naked men? Pbbbffft. :thumbsdn:

[justin_yz426]

Me and a coupple friends had one and at about 3 a.m. my buddy john wanted to talk to his grandfather that died a year ago. So we asked if we could and the next thing we know there was a loud explosin outside our house. It turns out the spa access panel was blown off and into little pieces. This cover is bolted on and is about 3 feet x 3 feet. Then we asked him to touch our hands and when he did they disappered and became very cold. Cold as if you stuck your hanbd in the freezer. They also started to tingle and feel numb. We asked if we could see him and we saw this huge black outline of a man. We could no longer see anything behind him. This was all in the middle of the nioght in a somewhat dark room. I belive it works and I don't like to have that thing in the same house as me.

[dustinzgirl]

I'll save you the trouble; it's a fucking game. It's make by a fucking game company. It works because people want it to, no other reason. It's a novelty, until people create little fantasies about it being real.

Exactly.

It was a practice long before it was a novelty. As were tarot cards and runes. Once again, you limit yourself to that which can be easily and specifically defined.

[junglizm]

It was a practice long before it was a novelty. As were tarot cards and runes.So longevity of their existence proves it's factual nature? This is new to me.
Once again, you limit yourself to that which can be easily and specifically defined.
Religion, Ouijja boards, tarot cards, palm reading, Nessie, a flat earth, snipes.

Water, wind, metal, cars, dogs, people, computers, Radium(I had to put that in there), paper, DNA, electricity.

You do see the pattern, correct?

I do believe in certain things that haven't been proven. We talked about this the other day, but you never replied to my last post. Sorry, but I’ve never known a single person who wasn’t an extreme eccentric that claimed a Ouija board worked for them. Sorry, but a Milton Bradley novelty doesn't fit my idea of a reckoning of demons, or so as it may be. Don’t all of the tarot cards and runes supposedly require a bit more of the user, than merely reading an index card with instructions? Furthermore, aren’t these things historically make of certain materials?

[MsPunK]

lol, im not an "extreme eccentric"

[dustinzgirl]

Don’t all of the tarot cards and runes supposedly require a bit more of the user, than merely reading an index card with instructions? Furthermore, aren’t these things historically make of certain materials?

Yes. to both. You often say that you believe there are things that can not be explained, and yet you are extremely quick to decide that something is not real because it can not be scientifically proven. I agree that the subconsious is a powerful thing, and many mediums are merely folci for that power, such as tarot, palm reading, spell casting....see where I am going with this? You can not say that this is all crap, because you do not know that for a fact. Science has niether been able to prove or disprove the possibility of the unknown, that is why it is unknown. It is the fate of mankind to find it necessary to classify something as existing or nonexisting. We do not like that which we can not classify. Now science knows for a fact that there are, what, 13 mathematical dimensions, that we simply can not access, but can prove that they exist. Now, two hundred years ago, someone saying that would be put to trial for being a witch. What exists in those dimensions? The possibility that our unknowns exist there is about as strong as the possibility that nothing exists in there.

[junglizm]

Yes. to both. You often say that you beLIEve there are things that can not be explained, and yet you are extremely quick to decide that something is not real because it can not be scientifically proven.
I’m merely stating my opinions. My opinions have been formed from both a lack of proof and the (often) eccentric nature of such claims.
I agree that the subconsious is a powerful thing, and many mediums are merely folci for that power, such as tarot, palm reading, spell casting....see where I am going with this?
I do, but it seems to be in contrast of your previous statements.
You can not say that this is all crap, because you do not know that for a fact.
Sure I can, it's called an opinion. We haven’t lost that right… yet.
Science has niether been able to prove or disprove the possibility of the unknown, that is why it is unknown.
Touce’! Lack of proof doesn’t manifest itself as proof either. Sure, (almost) anything is possible, but there are just some things I’m going to have to see to beLIEve. For instance; flying pigs, big foot, nessie,(which is probably a bad example), Godzilla, Ouija boards, gay Christian liberals, the blob, mr goblin/ghoul/ghost… etc, etc. I’m sure you see where I’m coming from.
It is the fate of mankind to find it necessary to classify something as existing or nonexisting. We do not like that which we can not classify.
True, but therein lies a paradox of sorts. We don’t like what we can’t classify, so we create classifications in which we place these phenomena, ie the paranormal. Generally (and scientifically) speaking things either exist or not, there isn’t much in between. We lump the “unexplained” into said categories in hopes of giving them some credibility. The unexplained becomes the “currently being researched.”
The possibility that our unknowns exist there is about as strong as the possibility that nothing exists in there.
True, but I’d rather put my faith in the tangible. Like I said; I do beLIEve in some unexplained phenomena, but only those which seem logical to me. That separates a lot of issues for me personally. Of course, one's logic is a completely relative thing.

[dustinzgirl]

Jung,
So, what I gather is that we both actually base our belief, or not belief, on the same premis, except that I choose to believe, while you choose not too.

Also, yes, i realize the possiblity of their being a contradiction there, but the point I am trying to get to agrees and disagrees with you at the same time. i think that humans, to navigate the unexplainable, need a foci for thier energy, or subconsious, for example, the oijja board, tarot cards, cross, bible, ect. It is a focus of our internal biological energy. Now, I happen to also believe that the energy is connected to a greater source, I.E. God. I believe in God because I choose to, because all other things that I have believed in have either proven themselves false or just left me feeling like shit. I also think that for a religion, or spiritual beliefe to outlast ALL OTHER beliefs says something about its validity. Not many people worship Ra or Hera in this day and age.

[junglizm]

Jung,
So, what I gather is that we both actually base our belief, or not belief, on the same premis, except that I choose to believe, while you choose not too.
I will agree to that; I believe that we both make informed and intelligent conclusions, we only differ in what we allow ourselves to believe in absence of proof.

Also, yes, i realize the possiblity of their being a contradiction there, but the point I am trying to get to agrees and disagrees with you at the same time. i think that humans, to navigate the unexplainable, need a foci for thier energy, or subconsious, for example, the oijja board, tarot cards, cross, bible, ect. It is a focus of our internal biological energy. Now, I happen to also believe that the energy is connected to a greater source, I.E. God. I believe in God because I choose to, because all other things that I have believed in have either proven themselves false or just left me feeling like shit. I also think that for a religion, or spiritual beliefe to outlast ALL OTHER beliefs says something about its validity. Not many people worship Ra or Hera in this day and age.
I understand that, but I think you also partially missed my point. No worries though, I see where you’re coming from. I just don’t fully agree.

[Captain 151]

i think that humans, to navigate the unexplainable, need a foci for thier energy, or subconsious, for example, the oijja board, tarot cards, cross, bible, ect. It is a focus of our internal biological energy.

I find this to be one of the best things youve ever said, and i say this with only a background of maybe 3 or 4 days of reading posts around here lately. I think you can go even broader than that too. Not only to navigate the unexplainable, but to give meaning and understand what is unexplainable. I'm pretty sure much of the material of the bible is farfetched, but it helps people grasp certain fundamentals (where did we come from... other religious things i know little about) when there is an absence of explainations.

[ReiMeishin]

I would not suggest trying to communicate with the dead.

For those who do not believe- If you don't believe the shit works, why would you do it in the first place?

For those who do believe- According to masters of wicca, boards like the ones described are magnets for evil and negative energy, it takes a lot of skill to tap into good powers. Why take the chance?

[Black Flame]

i've had some interesting experiences in my life. not too many that are extremely horrifyingly weird... but then again i have so much more life left.
the first time i used a ouija board was when i was.. 7, maybe? i was at a friends for a birthday party and we all went into the basement and set this up. we first asked for a sign that a presence had been drawn to us, and that's when there was a powerouttage. like i said, nothing extreme, but coincidental. which can still be considered odd.
secondly, my experiences don't so much come from the ouija board.. but from me. i'm not wicca or anything like that though i'm fascinated with religion and unnatural practice such as magick and spells etc. although i had never done much experimenting with it because i know how dangerous it can be. but i decided to touch base on it just a little bit. i only used it in desperate situations, for the good of others, never to inflict negativity on others, or either to myself.
one issue at hand was my best friend who's mother was so broke, they were lucky if they ate. i basically made up a small phrase to repeat, and i also made up the ritual in which to perform. it took a lot of concentration and relaxation at the same time. but i eventually finished the spell when i felt it was necessary, and went to bed. a couple days later, my friend's mother began closely dating an extremely wealthy guy, and they were able to buy groceries again, along with many other essentials.
this is just one experience, i, along with many of you i'm sure, have had a lot of odd things happen to me. sometimes little things, sometimes a little more obviously bizarre. but i couldn't possibly get them all down for you.
maybe the unexplainable is an entity on it's own. or maybe it can and will eventually be fully explained by science. or maybe both..maybe science can explain where these other spiritual worlds are, whether it be heaven and hell or whatever's inbetween etc. i respect people who have a belief in something and stick to it. but i still think that people should at least let in the possibility that anything could happen, anything could be true. you can still have a general opinion/belief about something, but don't let that cloud the other possibilities completely.

[i_love_life]

So your telling me you made up your own magical spell to get your friend money, "casted" it, and that's the reason his mom is dating some rich guy? Advice: grow up.

[MsPunK]

16/f/ca!!!omg!!! shut up!!!! anything is possible, our reality only consists of what we have been told and what weve seen, think about platos cave

[bigck3000]

Damn, I missed a decent debate over "hurrr"

The reason the ouiji board isn’t taken seriously is because if you look closely at the bottom/middle of the board, in bold letters it says "Parker Brothers". Anyways, Terrence McKenna was a brilliant philosopher; I believe I've saved a quote from one of his lectures on my comp,

"your science is going to shown up for what it is......it is not some method theory at whose feet every point of view from astrology to acupuncture to channeling need be laid to have the hand of science announce 'thumbs up or thumbs down'."

Jung, or who ever happens upon this.
I understand the argument that says "If science doesn’t say so, then it can’t be true", I used to hold this opinion too, but lately I've been finding that there is WAY more to life than the physical laws we can actually experience. If you consider the development of our understanding of the world from the dawn of "mankind" to the present day, we have outgrown many ideas and many theories that were proven true "beyond reasonable experimentation" turned out to be laughable in a decade or two. Our children hear and chuckle at the claims of "wise men" from the middle ages. I think there is a lot more to this existence than we are currently experiencing.

I'm running out of pennies at this rate
:sad:

[roofilicious]

now i know all you people keep getting up me for posting to late but i dont care this debate has not been concluded, nothing was gaind or lost in the situation. i noticed alot of people were posting saying you are a child grow up and sofourth but look at you judge as you wisheth to be judged! these things maybe impossible to explain but that doesnt mean that it should be immediately dissmissed at a first glance because of some lettering on the bottom that says parker bros you must look into it. and for those of you that say you dont beleive in it then tried it wouldntve been able to because the power of the phyckie (shurrup i cant speeell) is a very powerful thing and it wont allow itself to take in something you say is impossible. the other version or white light ver. is called the 'path finder' and is far safer because your mind will beleive that you are protected by the four directional spirits north, south, east and west you might not be but you think you are so you create these spirits to protect you i really dont know much more about the topic apart from telling you long and pointeless stories about my experiences with the path finde but i will spare you have a nice life

[meh_it_all]

I had a experience... i found it harilous...doubt its true... but here goes:

So... It was my friends birthday party...and we were outside in the dark..and we decided to make an ouija board ourselves....

My friend Kate made it because, she has made on before and it did work...
We were sitting on this bench and around the table...there was 4 of us.... Kate started telling us this story of how she once contacted Kurt Cobain... and how he 'hated her' and he was always 'bugging him' so... (yeah good one Kate just bug him so more) decided she wanted to contact him again.

She said 'Is anybody there' and it trailed over to 'yes'
We all started questioning each other at the point, wandering who was moving it.

Then she started asking if he remembered her and he answered yes.
A few minutes later... he started writing out her name... and then he started saying how he wanted to be left alone....
Then we asked him to show us a sign..blow out the candles.... and well...he did... everybody pissing themselves at this point...and everyone asking who blow it out etc...

Then he blew out both candles and told Kate he hated her... and then we decided to stop! lol... i thought this was all very funny :tongue:

Edit: didnt even look at the date -.-

[I Hate The FCC]

I saw a show on showtime about John Edward and he gets his audience to bring a family tree with them. They also get interviewed about their family members that have died.