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peridot
05-03-2004, 12:05 AM
For those who might not grasp the potential consequences of the prisoner abuse in Iraq! Our kids will pay the price. Check out the Symour Hersh article in this week's New Yorker mag. It's online. You'll see how systemic the torture of ordinary civilians is in Iraq. Then answer......

ALL BETS ARE OFF!
A WARNING TO FUTURE AMERICAN HOSTAGES
(Courtesy of George W. Bush's and the American News Media)
TvNewsLies.org Editorial - May-2004

Hostage-taking is now a standard weapon in Iraq. That’s a given. At this moment, at least one American soldier and one American contractor have been taken hostage in this insane quagmire.

Hostage-taking has a long and painful history in the Middle East, and you can bet your bottom dollar it will continue. In the past, arduous negotiations, sometimes years in the making, have brought some hostages home. In the past, hostages were sometimes unharmed by their captors. In the past, there were deals and hostages survived. The past, however, is over.

In the light of recent revelations about our horrid abuse of Iraqi prisoners, what are the odds that our missing men or any future American hostages will ever again survive their ordeals?

Americans are not unfamiliar with revenge. The military response to the murders and mutilations of four American security personnel was a devastating attack that killed more than 1,300 people in the Suni city of Fallujah. Women and children and old people died in homes indiscriminately hit by 500 and 1000 pound bombs. This was pay back, big time. US marines went into the city with a vengeance, and their revenge was swift and bloody, if not sweet. But the American wish for retaliation cannot hold a candle to the cultural need to avenge a wrong in the Moslem world.

Avenging a wrong is not a choice among most Moslems, for Islamic culture teaches that it is a duty to take revenge against those who would harm you. Not to avenge an undeserved wrong would bring dishonor to an entire family for a lifetime in a culture where family honor is a driving force. Now consider this: the images of humiliation and abuse that have been released this week throughout Iraq and the entire Moslem world are devastating and unprecedented. These are images of acts committed by those who would bring them democracy and freedom. These are images of acts that will sadden, shame, and enrage. These are images of acts that will be avenged, - if not today, tomorrow, and if not tomorrow, the day after. Time is not a factor, honor is. Remember that...

For the entire article:

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/iraq_-_all_bets_are_off.html

_Kitana_
05-03-2004, 12:50 AM
Alot of Bullshit going on here first off you stupid mother fucker anti-american, anti-war faggot ...wanna be dick sucker... who knows nothing of american military...

in fact you know nothing of the real war... you have sacrficed nothing..the only things you can gather is what you find on anti american websites and i have to say your probally not even worth the words i am typing right now...

First off look at the big picture... we are not tourturing Iraq's prisoners and if by chance any american soldier is... let me tell you their asses will be in big fucking trouble... they fall under military laws not civial.

Also war crime laws and rules of engagment... we follow the GENEVA CONVENTION... do you know wtf that is... do you have a clue

the IRAQI people do not... why? cause they know nothing of honor, sacrfice, duty and respect...

and from what I can tell neither do you!

:bomb: :gun: :mfinger: : :mad: :sword:

Broken
05-03-2004, 05:51 AM
Alot of Bullshit going on here first off you stupid mother fucker anti-american, anti-war faggot ...wanna be dick sucker... who knows nothing of american military...

in fact you know nothing of the real war... you have sacrficed nothing..the only things you can gather is what you find on anti american websites and i have to say your probally not even worth the words i am typing right now...

First off look at the big picture... we are not tourturing Iraq's prisoners and if by chance any american soldier is... let me tell you their asses will be in big fucking trouble... they fall under military laws not civial.

Also war crime laws and rules of engagment... we follow the GENEVA CONVENTION... do you know wtf that is... do you have a clue

the IRAQI people do not... why? cause they know nothing of honor, sacrfice, duty and respect...

and from what I can tell neither do you!

:bomb: :gun: :mfinger: : :mad: :sword:

Oh don't waste your time.. That's BUSHSUCKSBALLS, with a new name.

GottaHurt
05-03-2004, 08:56 AM
Alot of Bullshit going on here first off you stupid mother fucker anti-american, anti-war faggot ...wanna be dick sucker... who knows nothing of american military...

Alrighty then, she pretty much told him...

GottaHurt
05-03-2004, 08:57 AM
Oh don't waste your time.. That's BUSHSUCKSBALLS, with a new name.

You know, I think you're right.

ron
05-03-2004, 08:58 AM
Well, he chose a good name; he is a rock...

otepsoul
05-03-2004, 08:59 AM
yeah i dont even give a shit about the war anymore its old lets just drop a bomb.

_Kitana_
05-03-2004, 06:27 PM
Yeah it is old...

I wish it was that simple to drop a bomb, but unfortantly its not. I wish i could easly forget the war, but i can't. I want my husband home so bad it hurts...I want to spend time in our first aparment together. I want him to see the flower i planted. I want him home to make love in our bed, to kill the spiders... to do all the things that I am missing out on with him right now.

But I can't...its his duty above all else and I must support that and the last thing I need is some asshole telling me my husband is a war crimminal or a pawn for Bush!

What gives them the right to speak about my military. I WANT TO FUCKING KNOW! What gives these assholes to tell me my yellow ribbion is a political symbol... they have no clue what it means to me. What gives them the right to disrespect someone who is willing to DIE FOR THEM!

What have they given up? I want to truly know. I had some other dipshit on another board tell me they have sacrficed nothing that its all desire. You can twist it into whatever the fuck you want it to be, but the fact of the matter is it is done for you, this country and for what... So you can question my values and my husband honor. FUCK YOU!

You have no right! To you they are nameless faceless pawns, numbers...meaning less. You think of them ass kids... well you maybe fucking older then my husband and I but he be a better man then you will ever be.

To me they are my soldiers, ITs the guys lil girl I held when daddy climb aboard the bus... I held her, knowning full well that I couldn't explain to her why daddy had to leave... just wanted to let her know he doing good and the whole time i held her, why mommy had his lil boy, some anti-war assholes stood their yelling blood for OIL! Must be so proud there huh, can see the likeness of people who support your cause.

FUCK YOU AND YOUR WORTHLESS OIL SHIT! Your idiots if you believe that... That fucking country needs to either shape up and become productive. Tell me how many Iraqi Civillians died.... cause we are over there, how many would of died if we weren't over there? NO you can't find those numbers cause no one is reporting them.

T.V. News lies... FUCK THAT! ANTI-WAR website... I am sure its going to post the good stuff our military is doing right? NO!

Do you even look at the face of those troops? Do you know their names? Do they mean anything to you? God I wish I could make you fucking see...

yowatupdogg
05-03-2004, 07:40 PM
the pat tillman story is great. but what bout the other soilders that are killed everyday in iraq do they get hours of t.v covering no. yes pat tillamn is a hero but just cause he is a althete doesn't mean we have to honer him more then anyone else.



the french suck :mfinger:






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pain can be such a horrible thing :sword:

Captain 151
05-03-2004, 09:16 PM
Tell me how many Iraqi Civillians died.... cause we are over there, how many would of died if we weren't over there? NO you can't find those numbers cause no one is reporting them.

this is a beautiful comment, and basically what i have been trying to convey to my anti-war peers all along. while i also preach a george washington 1800s style isolationism type diplomacy, our removal of Saddam in Iraq did just as much to the security of America as it did to the security of the seperate sects of Muslim in Iraq that get mistreated everyday by that leadership.

Captain 151
05-03-2004, 09:18 PM
the pat tillman story is great. but what bout the other soilders that are killed everyday in iraq do they get hours of t.v covering no. yes pat tillamn is a hero but just cause he is a althete doesn't mean we have to honer him more then anyone else.

but man, it is in ispiring in this day and age to read a story where a pro athlete put his country above his hobby. If you read his comments about when he was being intervied and stuff, he said not to ask him any more questions because he is not any more worthy of press time than the man he is fighting next too. That, to me, is courage and bravery. I salute thee, Pat Tillman.